What is?

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Ohh, so could you provide some evidence that every local/national health department of every country on earth publishing biased data about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine...


Okay bro. Find me an academic source with good methodology that shows that a vaccinated indivudual is just as likely to die or require hospitalization. . .

Why, because YOU included "every local/national health department of every country on earth publishing biased data about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine..."?

This is part of the problem with you liberals. Someone makes a statement, you add to it and then want proof by the other persons of what YOU added. CooCoo Cooo Cooooooo!!

 

[Jonnyswboy]

What happened to liberals knowing that corporations bought our politicians? Is that not a thing anymore? All that fighting Bernie was going to do must be completely unnecessary now...

Oh yeah dude totally makes sense. All of the local/national health departments in Australia, Chile, England, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein, Malaysia, Northern Ireland, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, and the U.S, and MORE are all bought out by Pfizer, Moderna, AND J&J... Okay buddy.

 

[Jonnyswboy]

Why, because YOU included "every local/national health department of every country on earth publishing biased data about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine..."?

This is part of the problem with you liberals. Someone makes a statement, you add to it and then want proof by the other persons of what YOU added. CooCoo Cooo Cooooooo!!

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Listen, do what you want about the vaccine. I could not care less. Blindly quote internet websites. I don't care. Once in a while though... do something original... unique even.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

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And? Stay on topic and you won't get confused.

 

[SlugButter]

Oh yeah dude totally makes sense. All of the local/national health departments in Australia, Chile, England, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein, Malaysia, Northern Ireland, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, and the U.S, and MORE are bought out. Got it...

Right. That's what liberals literally claimed in 2007. You don't remember the Obama care debate? The same pharmaceutical corps are still there dude

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Right. That's what liberals literally claimed in 2007. You don't remember the Obama care debate?

Oh I remember.

 

[Jonnyswboy]

And? Stay on topic and you won't get confused.

I originally said "every local/national health department of every country on earth publishing biased data about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine"

You then claimed it was not a conspiracy, but then started talking about stocks? (Ironic as you are telling me to stay on topic)

Then you said I was arguing a strawman despite staying consistent the entire time and asking you to prove your claim that it isn't a conspiracy. I made the statement, and never modified or added to it...

 

[SlugButter]

I originally said "every local/national health department of every country on earth publishing biased data about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine"

You then claimed it was not a conspiracy, but then started talking about stocks? (Ironic as you are telling me to stay on topic)

Then you said I was arguing a strawman despite staying consistent the entire time and asking you to prove your claim that it isn't a conspiracy.

All those places get the numbers from where? Big pharma. You're trusting Pfizer way too much brother. Why?

 

[Jonnyswboy]

All those places get the numbers from where? Big pharma. You're trusting Pfizer way too much brother. Why?

It is based on information that doctors and hospitals deliver as part of the reporting requirement.** Not to mention that there are so many independent bodies in different countries reporting the SAME RESULTS.

How the **** would Pfizer even have first party statistics on deaths/hospitalization vax vs no vax?

But okay, go off man.

 

[SlugButter]

It is based on information that doctors and hospitals deliver as part of the reporting requirement.**

But okay, go off man.

Really. Post the actual study then. There had to be a study associated with the numbers.

 

[Jonnyswboy]

Really. Post the actual study then. There had to be a study associated with the numbers.

Okay:

Deaths by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19), non-COVID-19 deaths and all deaths by vaccination status, broken down by age group.

www.ons.gov.uk

Hybridistrategian seurantaraportit - THL

thl.fi

Covid-19 : résultats par âge issus des appariements entre SI-VIC, SI-DEP et VAC-SI

Attention : ces données ne seront plus mises à jour après le 23 juin 2023Dans le cadre de sa mission d’appui à la gestion de la crise sanitaire, la Direction de la Recherche, des Études, de l’Évaluation et des Statistiques (DREES) exploite les données pseudonymisées issues des 3 principales...

data.drees.solidarites-sante.gouv.fr

Infektionskrankheiten A-Z

www.rki.de

Sorveglianza integrata COVID-19: i principali dati nazionali

www.epicentro.iss.it

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/vaccination/status?devViewTotal=areas&vaccStatusDevRel=inz100

COVID-19 Deaths in Malaysia - COVIDNOW

The official Malaysia government website for data and insights on COVID-19.

covidnow.moh.gov.my

COVID-19 Cases in Malaysia - COVIDNOW

The official Malaysia government website for data and insights on COVID-19.

covidnow.moh.gov.my

COVID-19 vaccination status

Analysis of vaccination status of patients who have died or been hospitalised from COVID-19.

www.health-ni.gov.uk

COVID-19 case numbers-Data.gov.sg

Numbers on COVID-19 related data

data.gov.sg

COVID-19 case numbers-Data.gov.sg

Numbers on COVID-19 related data

data.gov.sg

COVID-19 Sledilnik

COVID-19 Sledilnik Slovenija - zbrani, preverjeni, ažurirani, analizirani in pregledni podatki o epidemiji COVID-19 v Sloveniji. | COVID-19 Slovenia Tracking - collected, verified, updated, analyzed and reviewed COVID-19 data for Slovenia

covid-19.sledilnik.org

https://www.sanidad.gob.es/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/situacionActual.htm

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/vaccination/status?devViewTotal=areas&vaccStatusDevRel=inz100

CDT Redirect Page

COVID-19 (Coronavirus) - weekly-reports

www.health.nsw.gov.au

The chart shows the development over time of reported laboratory-⁠confirmed hospitalisations

It is based on information that doctors and hospitals deliver to us as part of the reporting requirement. For hospitalisations and deaths in connection with a laboratory-⁠confirmed SARS-⁠CoV-⁠2 infection, they also transmit the vaccination status in addition to the clinical information.

There are hundreds of quotes like this ^^^

Again, how the **** would Pfizer even have first party statistics on deaths/hospitalization vax vs no vax?

 

[Jesus Christ]

Oh those truthful .gov & .org websites again i see.....i think we are chasing our own tail here

 

[Jonnyswboy]

Y'all sounding pretty dumb right now.

 

[Jonnyswboy]

Oh those truthful .gov & .org websites again i see

"Those sources are .gov, untrusted"

*Shows that the statistics are independently reported by hospitals from many countries funded by a variety of sources*

"bro some of those links are still .gov REEEEEE"

Seems like you are chasing your own tail..

Find me an academic source with good methodology that shows that a vaccinated individual is just as likely to die or require hospitalization. Surely there MUST be some independent unbiased institution reporting the real statistics?