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[RobGMN Premium Member]

That's FIVE people out at work because of "COVID". 4 of the 5 are fully vaccinated. That's 80%.

As for the Vaccinations... I believe Science advances continuously so research on the vaccines will continue to evolve. EVENTUALLY there WILL be a much more safe and effective vaccine against COVID. If the right people are working on the vaccines. At such time that a vaccine can be made effective AND safe against COVID then I am in. That time is not right now.

@r2daman some people here on this site, though smart in ways, allow fear to cloud their rational judgment and some people on here need to be led by others and are ok with giving up "Some of their rights for the good of all". Some people here need to "feel" like they are "winning" due to their own inner demons so they latch on to what they see as a winning team. No matter how unethical or criminal that team may be. Some people on this site feel they are superior to others and or feel it is their job to shame or talk down to others. It's a mixed bag here right now.

A vaccine is safe when it is used and proved over time, you say. BUT you don’t want the “unsafe” vaccine used and proved over time.

You can’t have it both ways. And, where is the proof that the vaccine is unsafe?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And no I don’t dive into the vaccine crap

Probably not a thread that would interest you. Covid and vax discussion is fairly common in this one.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A vaccine is safe when it is used and proved over time, you say. BUT you don’t want the “unsafe” vaccine used and proved over time.

You can’t have it both ways. And, where is the proof that the vaccine is unsafe?

They can prove it all they want over time. Clinical studies and volunteers. Not Mandates.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

They can prove it all they want over time. Clinical studies and volunteers. Not Mandates.

But you (and others) seem to not want mandates due to considering the vax “unsafe” (even though there is no reason to consider this one unsafe).
Is it the vax you are concerned with, or the mandate?
If the mandate, why THIS one and not all others?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

But you (and others) seem to not want mandates due to considering the vax “unsafe”.
Is it the vax you are concerned with, or the mandate?
If the mandate, why THIS one and not all others?

Personally I am concerned about both. It is my opinion that these vaccines, while having some time behind them, need more development for safety and efficacy. Like I said, 80% of the people just at my job that are out with COVID are FULLY vaccinated. I don't think that THIS vaccine should be mandated when it obviously needs more work.

 

[SlugButter]

What do you mean “do with them”? If they are claiming a religious exemption when there is no valid exemption?
They should lose whatever they have that is tied to the vax. Job, for example.

Gotcha. You think we should turn them into criminals. This is what makes you a retard. Please let things collapse soon so the weak like you die off. It's time

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Better watch out for those hamsters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...id-positive-as-city-lockdown-grows/ar-AAT3mBD

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Gotcha. You think we should turn them into criminals. This is what makes you a retard. Please let things collapse soon so the weak like you die off. It's time

“Criminals”? You think that losing your job by not following a company policy makes you a “criminal”? Interesting. I suppose if you show up to work drunk and they fire you, you get branded a criminal?
You must think you have a right to do whatever you want with no repercussions.
At least I’m SURE you thought that way when you did what you did that landed you in prison.
Sorry, society doesn’t work that way. Nor does at-will employment.
You’re afraid of needles, but I’m the weak one. Funny stuff, right there.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

“Criminals”? You think that losing your job by not following a company policy makes you a “criminal”? Interesting. I suppose if you show up to work drunk and they fire you, you get branded a criminal?
You must think you have a right to do whatever you want with no repercussions.
At least I’m SURE you thought that way when you did what you did that landed you in prison.
Sorry, society doesn’t work that way. Nor does at-will employment.
You’re afraid of needles, but I’m the weak one. Funny stuff, right there.

Individual rights protect us against anyone, including corporations. Corporate law is broken in this nation, as well. Corporations aren’t allowed to violate people’s rights, but people like to bend over for their masters too much.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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[SlugButter]

“Criminals”? You think that losing your job by not following a company policy makes you a “criminal”? Interesting. I suppose if you show up to work drunk and they fire you, you get branded a criminal?
You must think you have a right to do whatever you want with no repercussions.
At least I’m SURE you thought that way when you did what you did that landed you in prison.
Sorry, society doesn’t work that way. Nor does at-will employment.
You’re afraid of needles, but I’m the weak one. Funny stuff, right there.

So who is going to tell a private corporation to not hire these people? If it’s just up to the corporations then that’s cool. They will give in eventually and drop this mandate crap on their own if it hurts their bottom line,. Or not. Their choice. I think you are for having the government regulating companies to require vaccines, which makes it criminal to hire the unvaccinated. I thought you were a lawyer? You sure don’t use much critical thinking for a supposed educated person. You don’t even know your own position on this, or are just a liar.

 

[r2daman Premium Member]

Personally I am concerned about both. It is my opinion that these vaccines, while having some time behind them, need more development for safety and efficacy. Like I said, 80% of the people just at my job that are out with COVID are FULLY vaccinated. I don't think that THIS vaccine should be mandated when it obviously needs more work.

Vaccine doesn’t to anything

 

[r2daman Premium Member]

Better watch out for those hamsters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...id-positive-as-city-lockdown-grows/ar-AAT3mBD

U listen to msn?

 

[r2daman Premium Member]

So who is going to tell a private corporation to not hire these people? If it’s just up to the corporations then that’s cool. They will give in eventually and drop this mandate crap on their own if it hurts their bottom line,. Or not. Their choice. I think you are for having the government regulating companies to require vaccines, which makes it criminal to hire the unvaccinated. I thought you were a lawyer? You sure don’t use much critical thinking for a supposed educated person. You don’t even know your own position on this, or are just a liar.

I’m against telling ppl to take the vaccine. I made that jnow already