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[RobGMN Premium Member]

An additional $80,000 was given to them for payroll protection. That's on top of the half million dollars. Why is this place so special and gets this money when so many other businesses around it are closed with no help.

You are right. There is a lot of... funny you call it "detail"... there is a lot of context missing. As I said before, context matters. Yes, let the investigations start.

Do you see how hypocritical you are? You support your argument by saying there is a lot of detail missing and then try to justify the gallery getting that much money because of the type of business it is while you talk down about a podcaster, an "anti-vaxxer" getting relief. One doesn't share your views but obtained relief within the guidelines of the law. The other is getting relief to help a known crackhead but son of a president sell his art. You choose the scenario that helps the crackhead to follow because that's part of YOUR team.

I say there is detail missing, and then post details that I DO know. How is that hypocritical?
Due diligence requires that you use what you know, and discover what you NEED to know to come to a conclusion through critical thinking.

I KNOW that a high-end art gallery deals in high-end money. They are not selling prints for $100 at a craft show. They are selling prints for $20,000 in a gallery setting. To rich people. If Georges Berges has clients that will buy a $500K painting, then they have a big payroll. Even if it's only TWO people that own/operate. These are facts of business.

I can also tell you that a chef at Nobu makes more money than all day staff at a single McDonald's put together. Nobu asking for a bigger loan from the SBA would be fully expected. Just like a multimillion dollar art gallery needing more than a podcaster in his basement.

I am not talking down a podcaster, I am talking about two businesses that are very different from one another. A podcaster has low overhead. A podcaster is not affected by a loss of walk-in customers and public showings. A podcaster is not losing $20,000 single-piece art sales due to his gallery being physically closed and not being able to do showings. A podcaster who doesn't believe in COVID should also not be AFFECTED by COVID, and should certainly not need a business loan to make up for lost podcast income. Especially in a time when people are turning to online entertainment in their homes more than ever in history. It's like selling umbrellas in a rainstorm.

An online podcaster needing 1/5 of the loan that a multimillion dollar brick-and-mortar gallery has gotten? That adds up far less than the $350K the gallery got this year, and the $150K they got last year.
This stuff is Business 101. You claim you are of high intelligence. Simple business observations like this should not be taxing you.

I could care less that his son is a drug addict or a recovering drug addict. I'm not sure how that affects why the gallery should or should not get a loan that they applied for and apparently met the qualifications for. What exactly does it have to do with people buying his art, or a gallery selling it on spec?
That pillow guy is a crackhead. Does that mean he shouldn't get paid for the pillows he sells? Should he have been denied a loan to start his business? Should it be against the law for him to donate to Trump's election committee and ongoing begging for money to cover his attorney fees (that he'll probably refuse to pay)?
Since you are learning what "context" means and almost use the word correctly, what does the addiction context do for you with regard to the loan the gallery received?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I say there is detail missing, and then post details that I DO know. How is that hypocritical?
Due diligence requires that you use what you know, and discover what you NEED to know to come to a conclusion through critical thinking.

I KNOW that a high-end art gallery deals in high-end money. They are not selling prints for $100 at a craft show. They are selling prints for $20,000 in a gallery setting. To rich people. If Georges Berges has clients that will buy a $500K painting, then they have a big payroll. Even if it's only TWO people that own/operate. These are facts of business.

I can also tell you that a chef at Nobu makes more money than all day staff at a single McDonald's put together. Nobu asking for a bigger loan from the SBA would be fully expected. Just like a multimillion dollar art gallery needing more than a podcaster in his basement.

I am not talking down a podcaster, I am talking about two businesses that are very different from one another. A podcaster has low overhead. A podcaster is not affected by a loss of walk-in customers and public showings. A podcaster is not losing $20,000 single-piece art sales due to his gallery being physically closed and not being able to do showings. A podcaster who doesn't believe in COVID should also not be AFFECTED by COVID, and should certainly not need a business loan to make up for lost podcast income. Especially in a time when people are turning to online entertainment in their homes more than ever in history. It's like selling umbrellas in a rainstorm.

An online podcaster needing 1/5 of the loan that a multimillion dollar brick-and-mortar gallery has gotten? That adds up far less than the $350K the gallery got this year, and the $150K they got last year.
This stuff is Business 101. You claim you are of high intelligence. Simple business observations like this should not be taxing you.

I could care less that his son is a drug addict or a recovering drug addict. I'm not sure how that affects why the gallery should or should not get a loan that they applied for and apparently met the qualifications for. What exactly does it have to do with people buying his art, or a gallery selling it on spec?
That pillow guy is a crackhead. Does that mean he shouldn't get paid for the pillows he sells? Should he have been denied a loan to start his business? Should it be against the law for him to donate to Trump's election committee and ongoing begging for money to cover his attorney fees (that he'll probably refuse to pay)?
Since you are learning what "context" means and almost use the word correctly, what does the addiction context do for you with regard to the loan the gallery received?

I am going to literally read the first paragraph and ignore the rest as I am sure like added software in a new laptop, it is just bloatware. I'll answer the question that is not stupid but had an obvious answer.

You are hypocritical because you are responding with your feelings first on the two businesses, and you know you did, then you are trying to bury your obvious feelings about the two with all your bloatware.

"Anti-Vaxxer/COVID denier." Two things irrelevant when comparing the two businesses. You have expressed your dislike for people who are "anti-vaxxers" and those who don't believe in the virus. You led with these words in your rant. You led with your feelings. Hypocrite.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Oh it certainly says that.

Here is what it says. Quoted:
"I suppose if you don't want people commenting on your posts, you could always stop posting in a public chat forum.
Or step up your game and don't give them the ammo to shred you."

I am part of the "them" that can shred you with your own words in the course of debate/argument/discussion.
I also believe that people who get upset when their public speech gets commented on should not speak publicly. Like rock starts who hate their fame: get out of the business, hypocrite.

There is nothing in this quote above that states or even implies the only reason I go on forums is to shred people. That may be your interpretation, but your interpretation is not supported by the quote of my actual words. it is just what you WANT it to be b/c you think it helps your narrative.
But, you are wrong. probably just as much as I would be if I surmised that your only reason for posting on forums is to have people point out all inaccurate and incorrect things you believe and post.
Maybe I'm wrong and you actually DO like being cut off at the knees regularly. I dunno.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Here is what it says. Quoted:
"I suppose if you don't want people commenting on your posts, you could always stop posting in a public chat forum.
Or step up your game and don't give them the ammo to shred you."

I am part of the "them" that can shred you with your own words in the course of debate/argument/discussion.
I also believe that people who get upset when their public speech gets commented on should not speak publicly. Like rock starts who hate their fame: get out of the business, hypocrite.

There is nothing in this quote above that states or even implies the only reason I go on forums is to shred people. That may be your interpretation, but your interpretation is not supported by the quote of my actual words. it is just what you WANT it to be b/c you think it helps your narrative.
But, you are wrong. probably just as much as I would be if I surmised that your only reason for posting on forums is to have people point out all inaccurate and incorrect things you believe and post.
Maybe I'm wrong and you actually DO like being cut off at the knees regularly. I dunno.

No, what you meant was when people post things you don't like or agree with it gives you an excuse to be a pompous asss and argue to no end with them because you think the more you talk the more justified you become.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am going to literally read the first paragraph and ignore the rest as I am sure like added software in a new laptop, it is just bloatware. I'll answer the question that is not stupid but had an obvious answer.

You are hypocritical because you are responding with your feelings first on the two businesses, and you know you did, then you are trying to bury your obvious feelings about the two with all your bloatware.

"Anti-Vaxxer/COVID denier." Two things irrelevant when comparing the two businesses. You have expressed your dislike for people who are "anti-vaxxers" and those who don't believe in the virus. You led with these words in your rant. You led with your feelings. Hypocrite.

Business is not feelings. If you knew anything about due diligence and critical thinking, you'd know that.
But your work history shows a limited business knowledge, which is OK. But you can't "fake it 'til you make it" when it comes to knowledge. Stop acting like you know when you don't. It's depressing.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

What happens when you stump a Biden follower? /\ see above post.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, what you meant was when people post things you don't like or agree with it gives you an excuse to be a pompous asss and argue to no end with them because you think the more you talk the more justified you become.

I don't need an "excuse" to play the BS card on someone when they "speak" in a public setting. If someone wants to debate me when I play the BS card, they certainly can. Or can't. And I can respond. Or not.
It's a free country.

You have been 50% of the back-and-forth between us, yet complain I argue to no end. Ironic. Unless you think I should just accept and agree every point so you will not feel sad?

If you don't feel comfortable with responding to me, you don't have to. It's OK. It doesn't mean I will stop commenting on your posts, but you can just ignore me if I upset you that much.

What happens when you stump a Biden follower? /\ see above post.

"Stumped" me? You don't understand Business 101 but think you stumped me when I had to explain economies of scale to you? You are a legend in your own mind.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I don't need an "excuse" to play the BS card on someone when they "speak" in a public setting. If someone wants to debate me when I play the BS card, they certainly can. Or can't. And I can respond. Or not.
It's a free country.

You have been 50% of the back-and-forth between us, yet complain I argue to no end. Ironic. Unless you think I should just accept and agree every point so you will not feel sad?

If you don't feel comfortable with responding to me, you don't have to. It's OK. It doesn't mean I will stop commenting on your posts, but you can just ignore me if I upset you that much.

Upset me? No. You are literally text on a screen. What baffles me is the shiit you type and argue about. You like to talk percentages, what is ratio of you arguing with people on this forum to people you don't argue with? What ratio is it?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Upset me? No. You are literally text on a screen. What baffles me is the shiit you type and argue about. You like to talk percentages, what is ratio of you arguing with people on this forum to people you don't argue with? What ratio is it?

That is a good question. No relevance, but I am interested in the answer.
Go ahead.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That is a good question. No relevance, but I am interested in the answer.
Go ahead.

I honestly don't know. Most things I read from you are you arguing with someone. I will guess. 85 - 90% of your post are you arguing with someone about their post.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I honestly don't know. Most things I read from you are you arguing with someone. I will guess. 85 - 90% of your post are you arguing with someone about their post.

Oh. You asked what ratio of people I argue with versus not, then you give me a percentage of my posts that are arguments.
Two very different numbers, But I was guessing at 12-15 people in this thread and I argue or debate with 4. So, about 25% of the people.

Now, what is the relevance of either number in relation to what this subforum is?
Should we only be backslapping each others' posts in this thread? Should we only be posting about a specific car audio topic?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So 25% of the people and 90% of your post. Got it.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Biden's covid-19 scripted speech today was a joke. He rushed through it without any emotion like the robot he is....he obviously has no idea what is goin on, its comical but sad

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Biden's covid-19 scripted speech today was a joke. He rushed through it without any emotion like the robot he is....he obviously has no idea what is goin on, its comical but sad

Lulz. But y'all were fine with Trump doing it.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Yes Trump was an idiot also, i never claimed to support him (dont know why he constantly becomes the subject with dems) not everyone that dislikes Biden is a Trump supporter like they brainwash you to believe...but nice try