lms coil question

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here it is in flatwound.

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nah, check the bad seller section, im not helping anyone out right now.. im not in a position to do it in a timely manner. im sorry. i yuo seriously want something i can point yuo in the right direction though

 
ur a bad seller? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

nah unless it has to do with tc sounds. only thing worth getting built up //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
ur a bad seller? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gifnah unless it has to do with tc sounds. only thing worth getting built up //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
lol.. i spose i am yeah. ran into life problems (not a valid excuse i know) and couldnt get errything out in a timely manner. its resolved now. but, still not comfortable stating i will do something, ya know? and i could maybe get something going for you. i know a bit about tc sounds;) you may be surprised

 
The coil is "ugly" because of the variable density, which is what makes LMS...LMS. As the coil moves farther and farther out of the gap one of the ways to keep BL constant is to increase L (the length of windings). Thilo did a good bit of work to come up with the coil windings so that it worked out without too many hickup's in the BL curve. But having such a thin and thick coil means you have a very wide gap (as you can see from the pictures) and it also means you have a LOT of moving mass just from the coil. It's a rather lossy and deep (look at how deep all the LMS motors are) way to increase linear throw. I like XBL^2 better (less depth, lower inductance, lower mass), but that's just me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

If you need any more information hop over to DIYMA and do a search for LMS.

 
"it has an amazing low end"

...seems everybody forgot what inductance is... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Personally don't like it from a listening standpoint...for a daily driving perspective for a whole world of music your not going to get a better all around woofer than something with a mid Qts, Decent Bl, somewhat above 'average' throw..~23mm or so...works well in ported or sealed...will take abuse...

'SQ' guys swear up and down by weird motor topologies...there's no real point in my eyes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif but whatever.

 
The coil is "ugly" because of the variable density, which is what makes LMS...LMS. As the coil moves farther and farther out of the gap one of the ways to keep BL constant is to increase L (the length of windings). Thilo did a good bit of work to come up with the coil windings so that it worked out without too many hickup's in the BL curve. But having such a thin and thick coil means you have a very wide gap (as you can see from the pictures) and it also means you have a LOT of moving mass just from the coil. It's a rather lossy and deep (look at how deep all the LMS motors are) way to increase linear throw. I like XBL^2 better (less depth, lower inductance, lower mass), but that's just me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif
If you need any more information hop over to DIYMA and do a search for LMS.
and i dont like xbl^2 at all. but, thats just me:)
'SQ' guys swear up and down by weird motor topologies...there's no real point in my eyes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif but whatever.
agreed here. and its even better here on teh car audio forums that have NO IDEA of how or why it works, but simply like it cuz the manufacturer says its AWESOME.

 
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