DB Drive PLW15D2 VS Audiopipe TXXAPX15B

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

I've found both of these subs for about the same price (Around $125 each). Can you please list the pro's and cons of each? I'd be running 2 of them on my SAZ 1500D.

Of course if there is something else out there that would be even better at the same price please let me know!

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[I Like Waffle]

The DB drive looks like a solid sub, have had no first hand experience with it though. Looks like it may have a small motor with a plastic piece to make it look big, though. Uses an RE style basket.

The audiopipe subs will get loud on only 1500w, much more efficient than the DB drive, but another major factor is the APs are D4, and the DBs are D2. Ill say blow for blow, the DBs will get louder in that setup, mainly due to coil config.

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

i sell both the reason the plw's can be had cheap is there are new subs out for 2010. both are good subs. the db's have a 180oz mag if that tells u any thing. tuned low ap's tuned 40 and over db"s. my $.02....

 

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

The DB drive looks like a solid sub, have had no first hand experience with it though. Looks like it may have a small motor with a plastic piece to make it look big, though. Uses an RE style basket.
The audiopipe subs will get loud on only 1500w, much more efficient than the DB drive, but another major factor is the APs are D4, and the DBs are D2. Ill say blow for blow, the DBs will get louder in that setup, mainly due to coil config.

Hmm...So you're saying dual 4's will get louder because I can run my amp at 1 ohm? "Assuming" my eletrical was strong, wouldn't the dual 2 ohms be even since I'd be at a .5 final load?

 

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

i sell both the reason the plw's can be had cheap is there are new subs out for 2010. both are good subs. the db's have a 180oz mag if that tells u any thing. tuned low ap's tuned 40 and over db"s. my $.02....

So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that if I tuned low, you like the AP's but higher tuning you like the Db's? Which one is "more" of a SQ type sub?

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Hmm...So you're saying dual 4's will get louder because I can run my amp at 1 ohm? "Assuming" my eletrical was strong, wouldn't the dual 2 ohms be even since I'd be at a .5 final load?

He said the DB's will be louder. Also, box rise comes into play so the lower you can wire your amp the better off you are. Get D2's.

 

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

He said the DB's will be louder. Also, box rise comes into play so the lower you can wire your amp the better off you are. Get D2's.

Ahhh...Blame me for being a bad reader! I totally misread that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

i sell both the reason the plw's can be had cheap is there are new subs out for 2010. both are good subs. the db's have a 180oz mag if that tells u any thing. tuned low ap's tuned 40 and over db"s. my $.02....

I forgot to mention something about the magnet...I've done some reading about magnets and their size doesn't always mean it's a better speaker (I do realize that is more rare though). Did you mention the magnet size of the DB (180oz) because it's bigger than the AP's (150oz) so that you think it's a little stronger?

 

[I Like Waffle]

Magnet weight can be negligble in some cases. The DB drive motor is covered by plastic, where as the APs is not. The AP has a stout motor, 3" coil, vented bumped pole piece and etc. The main problem with choosing a sub these days is you cant see the whole thing.

http://caraudio.com/forum/subwoofers/435659-up-close-personal-new-audiopipe-txx-15-a.html

 

[Oldbass38 10+ year member]

Magnet weight can be negligble in some cases. The DB drive motor is covered by plastic, where as the APs is not. The AP has a stout motor, 3" coil, vented bumped pole piece and etc. The main problem with choosing a sub these days is you cant see the whole thing.
http://caraudio.com/forum/subwoofers/435659-up-close-personal-new-audiopipe-txx-15-a.html

Nice little thread of the up close shot of the AP....It looks like it's pretty well built....I think I'm leaning more towards the AP now....The only thing that would persuade me otherwise is if it's not very musical....It will be in my daily driver and I care about sound quality. For example...I do NOT like the sound of Kicker L7's....Too muddy to me...

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

someone asked about mag size on db thats why i said something. i have experience with both subs and on 3x+ rated power. there both good subs for the cash. i would say the ap will sound better...

 

[BacNtheGame 10+ year member]

i had the db drive plw15 they will get loud but i got rid of them after a week for the orion hcca15s after getting a email from db they said the plw are good for 850rms all day and i was pushing 1100 to them the company that sold them to me swore they 1000rms and even if they were 850 it was better to over power them than to under power them. i was like yea rite so when i burn the coils up they blame me and say im sht out of luck. i say go with the other ones but good luck in your pick

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

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or the db drive subs

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

the plw15s are 1000rms rated and will handle alot more thermally. mechly i wouldnt do over 1500rms per ....