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<blockquote data-quote="Buck" data-source="post: 8746699" data-attributes="member: 591582"><p>It's hard to compare woofers like that, you have no idea what box it was in or if any of it was even proper.</p><p></p><p>You're going to have a very hard time convincing me anything made by Skar is better than Sundown. I know things that others don't about Skar lol. I don't hate them, but they aren't pioneers IMO. They just like to make money. They do offer a relatively serious woofer line for a relatively low price, but it definitely comes at a cost. One cost is: doodoo t/s parameters on some woofers. Another cost is: why in the living hell does a skar ddx-10 need 2 cubes ported? Or the zvx-12's that need 3 cubes ported? Did they just put a bunch of random box sizes in a hat and randomly choose the first one that they pulled out of their hat?</p><p></p><p>As a box designer, something seems wrong there. I doubt they were designed to need that big of a box on purpose, lol. Maybe it has something to do with the fact some of their t/s are clearly posted with zero break in time, and that's how they determine box size, because they think their woofer is way stiffer than it is after break-in time. If those t/s are t/s after break in time, actually, then the problem just became a whole lot worse. Idk exactly, I just know that their t/s are doo on some woofers, and if you ignore the soft part parameters, you can enter the parameters less affected by break in time, and the woofer t/s actually make sense then.</p><p></p><p>You don't get issues like that from Sundown, usually. The worst thing about Sundown is sometimes they recommend too much port area, and the fact that they don't put RMS wattage and Xmax with the rest of the t/s parameters, you have to go fish them out of the paragraph explanation. That's not logical to me, but extremely minor details. Sundown is very good at what they do, maybe one of the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buck, post: 8746699, member: 591582"] It's hard to compare woofers like that, you have no idea what box it was in or if any of it was even proper. You're going to have a very hard time convincing me anything made by Skar is better than Sundown. I know things that others don't about Skar lol. I don't hate them, but they aren't pioneers IMO. They just like to make money. They do offer a relatively serious woofer line for a relatively low price, but it definitely comes at a cost. One cost is: doodoo t/s parameters on some woofers. Another cost is: why in the living hell does a skar ddx-10 need 2 cubes ported? Or the zvx-12's that need 3 cubes ported? Did they just put a bunch of random box sizes in a hat and randomly choose the first one that they pulled out of their hat? As a box designer, something seems wrong there. I doubt they were designed to need that big of a box on purpose, lol. Maybe it has something to do with the fact some of their t/s are clearly posted with zero break in time, and that's how they determine box size, because they think their woofer is way stiffer than it is after break-in time. If those t/s are t/s after break in time, actually, then the problem just became a whole lot worse. Idk exactly, I just know that their t/s are doo on some woofers, and if you ignore the soft part parameters, you can enter the parameters less affected by break in time, and the woofer t/s actually make sense then. You don't get issues like that from Sundown, usually. The worst thing about Sundown is sometimes they recommend too much port area, and the fact that they don't put RMS wattage and Xmax with the rest of the t/s parameters, you have to go fish them out of the paragraph explanation. That's not logical to me, but extremely minor details. Sundown is very good at what they do, maybe one of the best. [/QUOTE]
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