just cough up another 200 bucks and buy an HCCA d5000 brand new from HCCAfan. hit him up on AIM. it is the newer version of the 2500d. i was gonna get 2 12" type r's and the hcca d5000. but now all this talk about the magnums and the IA 20.1 has me rethinking, but i dont know what the advantage of the 20.1 over the d5000 is. if i was gonna get the 2500d i'd just talk to HCCAfan(aim screenname) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif