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<blockquote data-quote="CrazyKenKid" data-source="post: 7365914" data-attributes="member: 579796"><p>10. <strong>Raptor</strong>, this wire yields a average rating as this wire has the flex, has the price factor but the conductor OD is under the average percentage by a good 10%.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Raptor.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>11. <strong>Cadence</strong>, this wire gets a above average rating as it has the flex, the conductor OD is over the average conductor plus the cost of this wire is the second cheapest as it rounds out to $2 per foot.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Cadence.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>12. <strong>Q-Power,</strong> this wire will get a under average rating as per my standards of wire as the flex wasn't quite up to snuff, and the conductor percentage wasn't there and also this wire had the smallest overall OD of all the brands, the only positive for this wire was the price tag!</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Q-Power.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>13. <strong>Street Wires</strong>, and lastly this wire gets an average rating as it has the flex, and the conductor percentage but it doesn't have the price factor.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Streetwires.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>14. Welding Supplies coming very soon!</p><p></p><p>With all the above being said I would like to sum it all up in another excel table.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Ratings.jpg%20" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>As you can see half the wire brands were able to make it past my grading scale as 7/13= 53.8% passed!</p><p></p><p>So basically in my opinion I would recommend the Cadence wiring based off of my subjective review of the wires as stated previously above. If you want to go OFC or the KNU KCA if you want to go CCA! and another close runner up I would like to recommend is Rockford Fosgate or KNU Kolossus! My recommendations have been based on my results and my person use of the above mentioned wire.</p><p></p><p>Based on these sites as references each site basically says the conductor OD should be about 0.32 inches, and as we can all see all the wires tested are over that diameter so all the wires should have gotten a +1 for that but my review was based on wires vs wires not the standards but we can use the standards as a good reference to base everything off of!</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_3/1.html" target="_blank">Copper wire gage table : CONDUCTOR AND INSULATOR TABLES</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm" target="_blank">American Wire Gauge table and AWG Electrical Current Load Limits with skin depth frequencies</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge" target="_blank">American wire gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Not So Subjective:</strong></p><p></p><p>The reason why the above is a bit suggestive is because with this method you can't account for the individual strand size, count and construction of how the copper was packed into the jacket, which could make the conductor OD a bit smaller due to packing. So to help eliminate this issue a bit I picked up a nice tobacco scale and set it to Oz. That way I would be able to measure accurately the amount of copper which is in each wire brand. Also keep in mind that the KNU KCA and Q-Power is CCA strands.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1821.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1820.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>As you can see in the below pictures I cut the copper out of the jackets and placed it on the scale to get a reading on the scale. The first pic is of EFX Scosche and the second picture is of Monster.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1822.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1825.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>From there I also measured the diameter in inches of an individual strand of copper. As you can see in the pic this strand is a good 0.005" OD, and keeping in mind a piece of hair is about 0.003" thick.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1824.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>From there I took a bunch of strands and placed them on the scale to achieve a reading of 0.01 Oz. Once I got that reading I counted all the stands. On average there was about 25 strands but for some it was a good 50 strands. So I took 0.01 divided by the number of strands to get the weight of each individual strand then divided that by the overall weight of the overall total weight to get a potential amount of strands per brand. As you can see that number is close in some cases and is far off in others. So then I thought I could compare that number to the amount of potential strands by using the cross sectional areas of the strands vs. the overall CON OD.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CrazyKenKid, post: 7365914, member: 579796"] 10. [B]Raptor[/B], this wire yields a average rating as this wire has the flex, has the price factor but the conductor OD is under the average percentage by a good 10%. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Raptor.jpg[/IMG] 11. [B]Cadence[/B], this wire gets a above average rating as it has the flex, the conductor OD is over the average conductor plus the cost of this wire is the second cheapest as it rounds out to $2 per foot. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Cadence.jpg[/IMG] 12. [B]Q-Power,[/B] this wire will get a under average rating as per my standards of wire as the flex wasn't quite up to snuff, and the conductor percentage wasn't there and also this wire had the smallest overall OD of all the brands, the only positive for this wire was the price tag! [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Q-Power.jpg[/IMG] 13. [B]Street Wires[/B], and lastly this wire gets an average rating as it has the flex, and the conductor percentage but it doesn't have the price factor. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Streetwires.jpg[/IMG] 14. Welding Supplies coming very soon! With all the above being said I would like to sum it all up in another excel table. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/Ratings.jpg%20[/IMG] As you can see half the wire brands were able to make it past my grading scale as 7/13= 53.8% passed! So basically in my opinion I would recommend the Cadence wiring based off of my subjective review of the wires as stated previously above. If you want to go OFC or the KNU KCA if you want to go CCA! and another close runner up I would like to recommend is Rockford Fosgate or KNU Kolossus! My recommendations have been based on my results and my person use of the above mentioned wire. Based on these sites as references each site basically says the conductor OD should be about 0.32 inches, and as we can all see all the wires tested are over that diameter so all the wires should have gotten a +1 for that but my review was based on wires vs wires not the standards but we can use the standards as a good reference to base everything off of! [URL="http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_3/1.html"]Copper wire gage table : CONDUCTOR AND INSULATOR TABLES[/URL] [URL="http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm"]American Wire Gauge table and AWG Electrical Current Load Limits with skin depth frequencies[/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge"]American wire gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] [B]Not So Subjective:[/B] The reason why the above is a bit suggestive is because with this method you can't account for the individual strand size, count and construction of how the copper was packed into the jacket, which could make the conductor OD a bit smaller due to packing. So to help eliminate this issue a bit I picked up a nice tobacco scale and set it to Oz. That way I would be able to measure accurately the amount of copper which is in each wire brand. Also keep in mind that the KNU KCA and Q-Power is CCA strands. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1821.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1820.jpg[/IMG] As you can see in the below pictures I cut the copper out of the jackets and placed it on the scale to get a reading on the scale. The first pic is of EFX Scosche and the second picture is of Monster. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1822.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1825.jpg[/IMG] From there I also measured the diameter in inches of an individual strand of copper. As you can see in the pic this strand is a good 0.005" OD, and keeping in mind a piece of hair is about 0.003" thick. [IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/CcCrazy/Wires/IMG_1824.jpg[/IMG] From there I took a bunch of strands and placed them on the scale to achieve a reading of 0.01 Oz. Once I got that reading I counted all the stands. On average there was about 25 strands but for some it was a good 50 strands. So I took 0.01 divided by the number of strands to get the weight of each individual strand then divided that by the overall weight of the overall total weight to get a potential amount of strands per brand. As you can see that number is close in some cases and is far off in others. So then I thought I could compare that number to the amount of potential strands by using the cross sectional areas of the strands vs. the overall CON OD. [/QUOTE]
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