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<blockquote data-quote="RAM_Designs" data-source="post: 6247544" data-attributes="member: 566575">My point was that even though it costs you less money initially, the fact that the labor was done by people who do not pay income tax and take advantage of healthcare, you end up having to pay more because of that.I have never heard of this...what&#039;s their incentive?&nbsp; They have fake driver&#039;s liscenses in which they change their name on almost yearly.&nbsp; They don&#039;t pay taxes, they don&#039;t write checks, and they don&#039;t have credit/debit cards(I&#039;m referring to any illegal I have ever known)...how are we supposed to keep track of these people?&nbsp; They don&#039;t use their real name on anything.Hell, even RICH(and I mean rich) illegals that I know that make 1/4mil+ a year in construction don&#039;t pay taxes.&nbsp; The head mexican guys for framing and decking crews are stacked beyond belief.&nbsp; Driving around on the job site with decked out escalades, 4 different cars, huge house here and a couple of big ranches in mexico.&nbsp; Yet they pay nothing...I&#039;m not talking about letting someone die, but why should they get their broken finger treated on for free?&nbsp; I think they shouldn&#039;t be provided any treatment for something that isn&#039;t life threatening...and even then, I still wouldn&#039;t want them to receive treatment, but I wouldn&#039;t be cold hearted enough to deny them that to their face.I&#039;m not advocating giving them any health care option, period.The latter of the two is reality for a lot of people.I never once said I wanted to get away.&nbsp; I don&#039;t live around them, I just work around them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RAM_Designs, post: 6247544, member: 566575"] My point was that even though it costs you less money initially, the fact that the labor was done by people who do not pay income tax and take advantage of healthcare, you end up having to pay more because of that. I have never heard of this...what's their incentive? They have fake driver's liscenses in which they change their name on almost yearly. They don't pay taxes, they don't write checks, and they don't have credit/debit cards(I'm referring to any illegal I have ever known)...how are we supposed to keep track of these people? They don't use their real name on anything. Hell, even RICH(and I mean rich) illegals that I know that make 1/4mil+ a year in construction don't pay taxes. The head mexican guys for framing and decking crews are stacked beyond belief. Driving around on the job site with decked out escalades, 4 different cars, huge house here and a couple of big ranches in mexico. Yet they pay nothing... I'm not talking about letting someone die, but why should they get their broken finger treated on for free? I think they shouldn't be provided any treatment for something that isn't life threatening...and even then, I still wouldn't want them to receive treatment, but I wouldn't be cold hearted enough to deny them that to their face. I'm not advocating giving them any health care option, period. The latter of the two is reality for a lot of people. I never once said I wanted to get away. I don't live around them, I just work around them. [/QUOTE]

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