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<blockquote data-quote="elementxero" data-source="post: 3412051" data-attributes="member: 567619">x2 on the fries thing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gifBut really though, and I&#039;m just thinking on paper as well here, I think it&#039;s not a matter of drive so much as social learning.&nbsp; Whites have a lot different of an environment peddled to them as &#039;normal&#039; than blacks.&nbsp; When I say environment I mean mostly media-driven cultural definitions.Like it or not that&#039;s how mainstreams are shaped in modern times.&nbsp; The media tends to address black youth in a pandering, coddling tone, or no tone at all.&nbsp; Black figures featured in major media are LARGELY complete fools.It seems to me that its the media that shapes the culture, which produces people, who also produce people, who are also shaped further by the media, and so on and so on until you have a race of people with a very distorted racial identity.So this leaves them a) much poorer on the whole than whites and b) brainwashed about whats normal and acceptable in modern life.I think the media took the original black ideas of family unity, etc, and combined it with rampant consumerism and culture-shaping marketing.&nbsp; To illustrate, look at the young black community--quite possibly the most consumeristic group of people in our society, despite being one of the poorest.That didn&#039;t happen by accident....just some more thoughts for the void.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="elementxero, post: 3412051, member: 567619"] x2 on the fries thing. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif[/IMG] But really though, and I'm just thinking on paper as well here, I think it's not a matter of drive so much as social learning. Whites have a lot different of an environment peddled to them as 'normal' than blacks. When I say environment I mean mostly media-driven cultural definitions. Like it or not that's how mainstreams are shaped in modern times. The media tends to address black youth in a pandering, coddling tone, or no tone at all. Black figures featured in major media are LARGELY complete fools. It seems to me that its the media that shapes the culture, which produces people, who also produce people, who are also shaped further by the media, and so on and so on until you have a race of people with a very distorted racial identity. So this leaves them a) much poorer on the whole than whites and b) brainwashed about whats normal and acceptable in modern life. I think the media took the original black ideas of family unity, etc, and combined it with rampant consumerism and culture-shaping marketing. To illustrate, look at the young black community--quite possibly the most consumeristic group of people in our society, despite being one of the poorest. That didn't happen by accident. ...just some more thoughts for the void. [/QUOTE]

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