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<blockquote data-quote="Brock" data-source="post: 2381943" data-attributes="member: 544716"><p>Since there are too many flaws in your argument to appropriately address, I'll keep it simple. First of all, I never said anything about reaping the benefits of a free country without doing anything for it, you made that up. I simply said that if a draft was enacted, I would move. I say this because, considering the amount of 'patriots' in this country, I find it hard to believe, given the current context, that we would be short of volunteers should a real war arise. I don't see how going to the sandbox would benefit my country...from my point of view it endangers us even more, but that is a whole different conversation all its own.</p><p></p><p>And I don't see where you are going with the reference to Iran. Obviously you either don't know what you are talking about, or you assume that of me...in which case you would, in turn, not know what you are talking about.</p><p></p><p>I find it amazing that out of all the countries in the world, only 2 were dumb enough to act on this so-called intelligence. Yes, I know there are more than 2 countries who have troops in Iraq, but for this conversation, the ratio of non US/UK troops to US/UK troops is irrelevant. You can use the hind sight cop-out if you wish, but honestly we knew what we were getting ourselves into, nobody can honestly deny that. Read George Bush Sr's books.</p><p></p><p>I'll agree to disagree. Salute.</p><p></p><p>Someone else already covered this before, so I see no need to get into detail in my own response. I will, however, say that you are making a huge generalization in an inappropriate manner. Sure, it is possible to move out of the military into a great job, but it is rare. Not everyone in the military is a medic or engineer...if they were, we would have no infantry.</p><p></p><p>Right, do what youre told = Blind execution of orders from the top down.</p><p></p><p>Once again you bring up the fact that I hypothetically am not living upto my responsibilites as an American. Wow. Are you familiar with the second amendment? I don't have to be a part of the military to defend my country, or as I would like to say, my home. If, in the rare instance, we were being attacked on home soil, I would be more than prepared to join my fellow countrymen as a militia...something the Iraqi people are doing right now, except we call them terrorists, not patriots. Furthermore, I pay taxes, I donate my time to charity events, I attend political events as a <strong>registered republican</strong>, I participate in my communities political realm, etc. I don't see how I am not living up to my responsibilities as an American...I could be sitting on my *** playing video games and watching ****, but I'm not.</p><p></p><p>Once again you bring this point up again, you sound like a broken record. Since I think I've covered my ground as well as I can for a post on a caraudio board (if you'd like to discuss things over AIM or something I'd be more than happy to do so and post the transcript wherever you see fit) I'll stop at this: Everyone in this nation is born without having done anything to 'attain' freedom, we live to preserve it. Now, I may not be fighting on the battlefield in Iraq, but I'll be ****ed if I let someone tell me I'm not doing my part. A draft, I view, is purely against a true American policy...if you disagree with me that is fine, this IS America and you have the right to...all I ask is that you do so in a professional manner rather than concluding rediculous allegations about someone you've never had a true face to face discussion with. I know you're in the military and I respect that, I respect everyone who chooses to be a part of that...your Fox News baseless paranoid propaganda does not apply to me. I never said I refused to defend my country, but if a draft was truly enacted, well, it just wouldn't be America anymore.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, like Colin Powell. Wait, who listened to him? Nobody. Interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brock, post: 2381943, member: 544716"] Since there are too many flaws in your argument to appropriately address, I'll keep it simple. First of all, I never said anything about reaping the benefits of a free country without doing anything for it, you made that up. I simply said that if a draft was enacted, I would move. I say this because, considering the amount of 'patriots' in this country, I find it hard to believe, given the current context, that we would be short of volunteers should a real war arise. I don't see how going to the sandbox would benefit my country...from my point of view it endangers us even more, but that is a whole different conversation all its own. And I don't see where you are going with the reference to Iran. Obviously you either don't know what you are talking about, or you assume that of me...in which case you would, in turn, not know what you are talking about. I find it amazing that out of all the countries in the world, only 2 were dumb enough to act on this so-called intelligence. Yes, I know there are more than 2 countries who have troops in Iraq, but for this conversation, the ratio of non US/UK troops to US/UK troops is irrelevant. You can use the hind sight cop-out if you wish, but honestly we knew what we were getting ourselves into, nobody can honestly deny that. Read George Bush Sr's books. I'll agree to disagree. Salute. Someone else already covered this before, so I see no need to get into detail in my own response. I will, however, say that you are making a huge generalization in an inappropriate manner. Sure, it is possible to move out of the military into a great job, but it is rare. Not everyone in the military is a medic or engineer...if they were, we would have no infantry. Right, do what youre told = Blind execution of orders from the top down. Once again you bring up the fact that I hypothetically am not living upto my responsibilites as an American. Wow. Are you familiar with the second amendment? I don't have to be a part of the military to defend my country, or as I would like to say, my home. If, in the rare instance, we were being attacked on home soil, I would be more than prepared to join my fellow countrymen as a militia...something the Iraqi people are doing right now, except we call them terrorists, not patriots. Furthermore, I pay taxes, I donate my time to charity events, I attend political events as a [B]registered republican[/B], I participate in my communities political realm, etc. I don't see how I am not living up to my responsibilities as an American...I could be sitting on my *** playing video games and watching ****, but I'm not. Once again you bring this point up again, you sound like a broken record. Since I think I've covered my ground as well as I can for a post on a caraudio board (if you'd like to discuss things over AIM or something I'd be more than happy to do so and post the transcript wherever you see fit) I'll stop at this: Everyone in this nation is born without having done anything to 'attain' freedom, we live to preserve it. Now, I may not be fighting on the battlefield in Iraq, but I'll be ****ed if I let someone tell me I'm not doing my part. A draft, I view, is purely against a true American policy...if you disagree with me that is fine, this IS America and you have the right to...all I ask is that you do so in a professional manner rather than concluding rediculous allegations about someone you've never had a true face to face discussion with. I know you're in the military and I respect that, I respect everyone who chooses to be a part of that...your Fox News baseless paranoid propaganda does not apply to me. I never said I refused to defend my country, but if a draft was truly enacted, well, it just wouldn't be America anymore. Yeah, like Colin Powell. Wait, who listened to him? Nobody. Interesting. [/QUOTE]
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