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<blockquote data-quote="95civicHatchbac" data-source="post: 423943" data-attributes="member: 554143">Well now hang on a second, I never said that the JL Audio Subs were on top of the pyramid. I have heard the Treo Engineering subs that Smullen talked about. I have heard 4 of there 12&#039;s in a ported box with probably 2-2.5 cubes per 12. And one 13W7 in a ported box sounded better then all 4 12&#039;s. That is when I started digging up info on these subs.My godfather owns a car stereo shop that deals with: JL Audio, Kicker, Alpine, Cerwin Vega, Planet Audio, Rockford Fosgate, Memphis Audio, Clarion, JVC, Chronic Audio, MB Quartz, Kenwood, Pioneer,Earthquake,Zapco, Cadence,Phoenix Gold, Q-Logic, Probox, Sony, Panasonic, Kove, and some others but i cant remember right now.But I have had a chance to hear lots of different high end subwoofers. I have never heard the RE&#039;s , XXX&#039;s, ID&#039;s , H2&#039;s or D2&#039;s or some of the other companies that are Internet company&#039;s. But I have heard the Cerwin Vega strokers. 2 of the 15&#039;s against the 13w7&#039;s and the 13w7&#039;s in my opinion just sound all around better to me. I have heard the Memphis audio 12 inch elvis series as well and again I just like the way the JL Audio sounds. So I didnt get them based on hype I got them because to me they just sounded better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="95civicHatchbac, post: 423943, member: 554143"] Well now hang on a second, I never said that the JL Audio Subs were on top of the pyramid. I have heard the Treo Engineering subs that Smullen talked about. I have heard 4 of there 12's in a ported box with probably 2-2.5 cubes per 12. And one 13W7 in a ported box sounded better then all 4 12's. That is when I started digging up info on these subs. My godfather owns a car stereo shop that deals with: JL Audio, Kicker, Alpine, Cerwin Vega, Planet Audio, Rockford Fosgate, Memphis Audio, Clarion, JVC, Chronic Audio, MB Quartz, Kenwood, Pioneer,Earthquake,Zapco, Cadence,Phoenix Gold, Q-Logic, Probox, Sony, Panasonic, Kove, and some others but i cant remember right now. But I have had a chance to hear lots of different high end subwoofers. I have never heard the RE's , XXX's, ID's , H2's or D2's or some of the other companies that are Internet company's. But I have heard the Cerwin Vega strokers. 2 of the 15's against the 13w7's and the 13w7's in my opinion just sound all around better to me. I have heard the Memphis audio 12 inch elvis series as well and again I just like the way the JL Audio sounds. So I didnt get them based on hype I got them because to me they just sounded better. [/QUOTE]

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