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Which subs would work better for rock/metal music, Sundown SA12 or Alpine SWX-1243D
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<blockquote data-quote="DFW40" data-source="post: 8208850" data-attributes="member: 556468"><p>I have not used the type x but own a SA12 and have had it in several ported boxes testing etc. The box and tuning will be absolutely the most important part also which direction you have the box facing etc. I had had many subs and many boxes and relentlessly tinker and waste time and money like most of us right. The SA 12 in a ported box around 1.5 tuned to 33 hz sounded good on rock and 1.75 tuned to 38 also sounded very good. It was not perfect sounding it stumbled on a few notes and transitions but is flawless on others it is quick sounding but can generate unwanted distortion or mechanical noise or just not making the transition smoothly not sure exactly how to describe it. I have had some issues blending it with my midbass speakers on some songs and volumes. In my opinion and I have owned all 3 of these the JL W6 v2 the IDmax v3 and the Image Dynamics IDQ v.3 all sounded better on most music especially rock with like you said 3 different bass tracks and rumbles and beats. All 3 are all regarded as true SQ subs where the SA is closer to SQL and you can tell pretty easily. The W6/IDmax/IDQ blended easily at multiple crossover points and slopes where the SA was more finicky. If I were you I would go with two 12 inch IDQv3's I have not heard the new versions but the new 12's boast more excursion and power handling than v.3 and may sound better or worse not sure. If money were not an issue I would go with 2 IDmax's they can handle around 1000 watts a piece but can almost reach full excursion with half that power in the right box. To me the IDQv.3's sounded very similar to the IDmax just not the power handling or quite the excursion. I have my IDQ 10 in a ported box that is 1.36 cubes tuned to 39 hz with a f3 of 33hz and to me it is the best sounding sub for the money of the subs listed above including the SA12 for the type of music you like. 2 12's in a ported box with 700 watts a sub would sound perfect to me and that is about the right wattage for those subs imo. The Sundowns can get louder and take more abuse but will not be as smooth and accurate to me and I have them sitting in my garage and have swapped them out back to back listening to the same song etc. Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DFW40, post: 8208850, member: 556468"] I have not used the type x but own a SA12 and have had it in several ported boxes testing etc. The box and tuning will be absolutely the most important part also which direction you have the box facing etc. I had had many subs and many boxes and relentlessly tinker and waste time and money like most of us right. The SA 12 in a ported box around 1.5 tuned to 33 hz sounded good on rock and 1.75 tuned to 38 also sounded very good. It was not perfect sounding it stumbled on a few notes and transitions but is flawless on others it is quick sounding but can generate unwanted distortion or mechanical noise or just not making the transition smoothly not sure exactly how to describe it. I have had some issues blending it with my midbass speakers on some songs and volumes. In my opinion and I have owned all 3 of these the JL W6 v2 the IDmax v3 and the Image Dynamics IDQ v.3 all sounded better on most music especially rock with like you said 3 different bass tracks and rumbles and beats. All 3 are all regarded as true SQ subs where the SA is closer to SQL and you can tell pretty easily. The W6/IDmax/IDQ blended easily at multiple crossover points and slopes where the SA was more finicky. If I were you I would go with two 12 inch IDQv3's I have not heard the new versions but the new 12's boast more excursion and power handling than v.3 and may sound better or worse not sure. If money were not an issue I would go with 2 IDmax's they can handle around 1000 watts a piece but can almost reach full excursion with half that power in the right box. To me the IDQv.3's sounded very similar to the IDmax just not the power handling or quite the excursion. I have my IDQ 10 in a ported box that is 1.36 cubes tuned to 39 hz with a f3 of 33hz and to me it is the best sounding sub for the money of the subs listed above including the SA12 for the type of music you like. 2 12's in a ported box with 700 watts a sub would sound perfect to me and that is about the right wattage for those subs imo. The Sundowns can get louder and take more abuse but will not be as smooth and accurate to me and I have them sitting in my garage and have swapped them out back to back listening to the same song etc. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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