Which one of the two?

AhmedT

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Hey i have two amps in mind

Kenwood KAC-X541 4- channel 960 watts max (60 watts RMS per channel) = $999

Pioneer GM-6100F 4-channel (60 watts RMS per channel) = $469

why is there a big price difference?

these are the specs i got..but didn't fully understand them

Kenwood

Features Highlights Maximum Output Power: 960W

Built in Parametric EQ Control

AMP Information Display (Voltage, Current, Temprature, Cooling Fan Speed)

Built-in Variable Low-pass/ High-pass Filter

Built-in Infrasonic Filter

Gold Plated Input/Output Terminals

Line Output Terminals (RCA) for Extension

2-Speed Cooling Fan

Detachable Aluminium Dress Plate

General Features

AMP Control System (8 AMPs Max. Connectable & Controllable with '04 Kenwood H/U*)

Built in Parametric EQ Control

Bass Frequency Control (60/ 80/ 100/ 200Hz)

Bass Level Control (-15 to 15dB)

Bass Q Factor Control (1.00/ 1.25/ 1.5/ 2.0)

Treble Frequency Control (10.0k/ 12.5k/ 15.0k/ 17.5kHz)

Treble Level Control (-15 to 15dB)

AMP Information Display (Voltage, Current, Temprature, Cooling Fan Speed)

5L Input for AMP Control Connection (H/U to AMP, with Optional CA-C6SH)

S-video Cable Input/Output Terminals for Amp Control Connection (AMP to AMP)

Variable Input Sensitivity (0.2-5V)

Built-in Variable Low-pass Filter 50-200Hz (24dB/oct) : B-channel

Built-in Variable High-pass Filter 50-200Hz (12dB/oct) : A/B-cahnnel

Built-in Infrasonic Filter 15Hz (24dB/oct) : B-channel

Gold Plated Input/Output Terminals

Line Output Terminals (RCA) for Extension

2-Speed Cooling Fan

Detachable Aluminium Dress Plate

Size: W 446mm x H 61mm x D 259.5mm (W/O Dress Plate)

Maximum Output Power: 960W

Rated Output Power (14.4V)

60W x 4 at 20-20kHz 0.05%THD (4 Ohms)

120W x 4 at 1kHz 0.5%THD (2 Ohms)

240W x 2 at Bridged 1kHz 0.5%THD (4 Ohms)

Rated Output Power (12.0V)

45W x 4 at 20-20kHz 0.05%THD (4 Ohms)

90W x 4 at 1kHz 0.5%THD (2 Ohms)

180W x 2 at Bridged 1kHz 0.5%THD (4 Ohms)

Pioneer

Maximum Power Output

120 Watts x 4 or 300 Watts x 2 or 120 Watts x 2 + 300 Watts x 1

Maximum power output (EIAJ)

Continuous Power Output - Watts RMS

@ 14.4V (20 ~ 20kHz into 4 ohms) 60W x 4 (0.2%)

(20 ~ 20kHz into 2 ohms) 75W x 4 (0.8%)

Bridged into 4 ohms 150W x 2 (0.8%)

@ 12.0V (20 ~ 20kHz into 4 ohms) 605W x 4 (0.2%)

(20 ~ 20kHz into 2 ohms) 75W x 4 (0.8%)

Bridged into 4 ohms 150W x 2 (0.8%)

CEA2006 Amplifier Ratings

Power Output in Watts RMS @ 14.4 Volts

4 ohms @

2 ohms @

Bridged into 4 ohms @

Signal-to-noise Ratio 80dBA

Dynamic Power 60W @ 4 ohms

Specifications & Features

RCA and Speaker Level Input

Speaker Level Input (0.8V ~ 26Volt)

RCA Input (200mV - 6.5Volt)

LPF (Low Pass Filter) 80Hz, -12dB/oct.

HPF (High Pass Filter) 80Hz, -12dB/oct.

Frequency Response 10 ~ 50,000 Hz (+0db, -1dB)

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD)

Signal to Noise (S/N) Ratio > 95dB

Load Impedance per channel 2 ohms ~ 8 ohms

Separation (@1Kz): 70dB

Average Current Consumption (4 ohms, 4-Channels Driven): 9.0A

PWM Regulated Power Supply with MOSFET switching

Full Range RCA output

Screw-type power / ground / speaker terminals

High performance balanced isolator circuit

Amplifier Fuse Rating 25 Amps x 2

Amplifier Dimensions

300 x 60 x 327mm

Mass 4.7kg
 
469.00 is wayy too much for the Pioneer 4 channel, it is a good amp though.

The Excelon is a good amp but the price is not worth it (******** outragous actually) , it costs more because it has some extra features built into it (that you don't need) and there is an Excelon badge on it.

The Kenwood KAC-8402 puts out 60watts x4 RMS and costs a lot less then the Pioneer and will perform just as good, you should be able to get one brand new for well under 300 dollars.

Pictures and info-

http://www.audio-warehouse.com/web/mdl/KAC8402/detail.asp

This will do what you need and save you alot of money.

 
oh sorry thats 469 and 999 in australian dollars

but what i wanted to know is that..the kenwood KAC-X541 gives the same output at 60watts RMS per channel.. how come its more expensive?

 
oh sorry thats 469 and 999 in australian dollars
but what i wanted to know is that..the kenwood KAC-X541 gives the same output at 60watts RMS per channel.. how come its more expensive?

because kenwood is gay. really i saw kenwood having relations with same *** audio equipment //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 
Canadian dollars are pretty close to Austrailian dollars, go find a Kenwood 8402, it will do what you need for a good price.

Up north here all Pioneer and Kenwood Excelon amps are overpriced, its mostly just dealer markup, dealers markup products based on percieved value. Dealers will charge different prices based on what they think you will pay, it sucks but its just the way it is.

The Canadian dealer cost for the KAC-8402 is 200 dollars so after dealer markup the price goes from 349 to 400 dollars, this price is not written in stone, if you dicker with them a bit you can get the price reduced to around 300.

For comparison purposes the Kenwood Excelon X521 and the Kenwood 7252 have the exact same power output capabilities, the only difference is that the 521 has digital sound shaping options and AMS (you can get a cable to connect the amp to an Excelon HU and control the amp functions from the HU), These extra funtions are unecessary and only drive up the price.

 
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