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<blockquote data-quote="Toofast4u" data-source="post: 7553500" data-attributes="member: 633459">1. Nutthugers - There are too many people who hate on 99% of mainstream brands, simply because they&#039;re mainstream.2. The people who use it - There aren&#039;t too many people over the web who do it, but locally I&#039;ve had terrible experiences with people who run Kicker, as well as other brands.&nbsp; It&#039;s made me dislike those brands much more because there are too many douchebags who think their brand is better than everything else, and are ignorant to any advice regarding their system.3. The products themselves - Price to performance ratio, customer service and quality all matter here. Kickers subs get loud, but they also need a huge box.&nbsp; They also don&#039;t like seeing twice their rated power lol, a lot of people like to over power what they have. Their amps are efficient, but for the price you can get something much better. Add in the customer service compared to Sundown or DC, and there you have it.They don&#039;t deserve ALL the hate they get. I guess the biggest problem I have with them, along with JL especially, are the people who locally run them and want to fight me when I try to explain how other non mainstream brands are better in certain ways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Toofast4u, post: 7553500, member: 633459"] 1. Nutthugers - There are too many people who hate on 99% of mainstream brands, simply because they're mainstream. 2. The people who use it - There aren't too many people over the web who do it, but locally I've had terrible experiences with people who run Kicker, as well as other brands. It's made me dislike those brands much more because there are too many douchebags who think their brand is better than everything else, and are ignorant to any advice regarding their system. 3. The products themselves - Price to performance ratio, customer service and quality all matter here. Kickers subs get loud, but they also need a huge box. They also don't like seeing twice their rated power lol, a lot of people like to over power what they have. Their amps are efficient, but for the price you can get something much better. Add in the customer service compared to Sundown or DC, and there you have it. They don't deserve ALL the hate they get. I guess the biggest problem I have with them, along with JL especially, are the people who locally run them and want to fight me when I try to explain how other non mainstream brands are better in certain ways. [/QUOTE]

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