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<blockquote data-quote="akheathen" data-source="post: 7286943" data-attributes="member: 629234"><p>lol...... i&#039;ve been with kicker AND other brands since the 90&#039;s......... it&#039;s been covered- good subs, not so good price.&nbsp;&nbsp; i remember when the cvr came out, and i got all gitty on the cvr train...... then the l7&#039;s came out, and i went down and paid a 75% price on 2 brand new 15&#039;s.&nbsp; still have them to this day, as well as an origional 8...... imho, the newer cone design *****, both in looks, and, not sure what affect it has on sound, but they also changed up the whole line of products to go cheaper.&nbsp; the fact that they went a little cheaper on materials is what has everyone in &quot;kicker *****&quot; mode.&nbsp; well so does jl, alpine, and many other name brands.&nbsp; really the one that took the biggest dive into &quot;*****&quot; territory is sony.&nbsp;&nbsp; the cv line is still a good, efficient sub, with some nice durable characteristics.&nbsp; and, all of the cones are stiffened up by design.&nbsp; the fact that they are plastic means nothing.&nbsp; the general population still regognizes kicker as decent, so resale is always good... don&#039;t pay full retail, though. get it at a good deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="akheathen, post: 7286943, member: 629234"] lol...... i've been with kicker AND other brands since the 90's......... it's been covered- good subs, not so good price. i remember when the cvr came out, and i got all gitty on the cvr train...... then the l7's came out, and i went down and paid a 75% price on 2 brand new 15's. still have them to this day, as well as an origional 8...... imho, the newer cone design *****, both in looks, and, not sure what affect it has on sound, but they also changed up the whole line of products to go cheaper. the fact that they went a little cheaper on materials is what has everyone in "kicker *****" mode. well so does jl, alpine, and many other name brands. really the one that took the biggest dive into "*****" territory is sony. the cv line is still a good, efficient sub, with some nice durable characteristics. and, all of the cones are stiffened up by design. the fact that they are plastic means nothing. the general population still regognizes kicker as decent, so resale is always good... don't pay full retail, though. get it at a good deal. [/QUOTE]

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