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ThxOne
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As of now, I'd say you're between 12 and 15 based on your vernacular.
So, how do we settle the bet?
Air is a gas that acts like a fluid (as you almost corrected your claim to); glass is not a liquid, it's an amorphous solid.
ThxOne
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Air flows. Any substance that flows is a fluid. Glass's stability depends on temperature. When heated, glass becomes a supercooled liquid.
My 5 likes please.
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"Glass, however, is actually neither a liquid—supercooled or otherwise—nor a solid. It is an amorphous solid—a state somewhere between those two states of matter."
Fact or Fiction?: Glass Is a (Supercooled) Liquid
Are medieval windows melting?
www.scientificamerican.com
"The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists, but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer that should be avoided."
"glass is an amorphous solid, meaning that the atoms and molecules display more random arrangements rather than the definite lattice patterns of conventional solids. glass also does not follow the typical transition from liquid to solid, which usually involves molecules lining up to form a crystal pattern. instead, glass molecules are effectively frozen in place before this crystallization can occur"
scientists uncover a new state of matter: liquid glass
www.designboom.com
The air claim is a draw b/c you corrected your definition along the way. Glass is an amorphous solid, not a liquid, any more than steel is a liquid just because it flows when heated. And...glass has to be heated hundreds of degrees hotter than steel just to liquify.
Are we talking air as a medium?
Compression and rarefaction are properties usually used in car audio.
Its not flow so to speak but boundry layer air and ratio unless sealed. Make it a 4th and its a designers dream... get fs as close to tuning /w/ adequate port and you got a winner.
Otherwise the air is AGITATED and relys on wall area... jeez.
Aeros were a thing once weren't they?
Boundary layer air should be as quiet and stable as possible... flare it.
The things I know...
I hate to interject but Rob is toxic... this is a car audio site... GTFO
Compression and rarefaction are properties usually used in car audio.
Its not flow so to speak but boundry layer air and ratio unless sealed. Make it a 4th and its a designers dream... get fs as close to tuning /w/ adequate port and you got a winner.
Otherwise the air is AGITATED and relys on wall area... jeez.
Aeros were a thing once weren't they?
Boundary layer air should be as quiet and stable as possible... flare it.
The things I know...
I hate to interject but Rob is toxic... this is a car audio site... GTFO
I made an educated assumption that you wouldn't just accept my claim about glass as a proof, so i offer you sources that you can read and verify the claim.Somebody is doing some Googling.
And if you read one, it scientifically explains why it is an amorphous solid. "Because it flows" is not a valid reason to think glass is a liquid.
ThxOne
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I guess we will have to call both a draw..."Glass, however, is actually neither a liquid—supercooled or otherwise—nor a solid. It is an amorphous solid—a state somewhere between those two states of matter."
.Fact or Fiction?: Glass Is a (Supercooled) Liquid
Are medieval windows melting?
"The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists, but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer that should be avoided."
"glass is an amorphous solid, meaning that the atoms and molecules display more random arrangements rather than the definite lattice patterns of conventional solids. glass also does not follow the typical transition from liquid to solid, which usually involves molecules lining up to form a crystal pattern. instead, glass molecules are effectively frozen in place before this crystallization can occur"
scientists uncover a new state of matter: liquid glass
www.designboom.com
The air claim is a draw b/c you corrected your definition along the way. Glass is an amorphous solid, not a liquid, any more than steel is a liquid just because it flows when heated. And...glass has to be heated hundreds of degrees hotter than steel just to liquify.
Please reference paragraph 5.
Scientists find the temperature at which glass becomes a liquid
While glass might be thought of in terms of holding wine or as a window, the stability of glass affects areas as diverse as nuclear waste storage, pharmaceuticals, and ice cream. Recently, chemical physicists at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory made a key discovery about how glass forms.
No. We were disussing whether air is a gas, a liquid, or a fluid, and whether glass is a liquid or a solid.Are we talking air as a medium?
Compression and rarefaction are properties usually used in car audio.
Its not flow so to speak but boundry layer air and ratio unless sealed. Make it a 4th and its a designers dream... get fs as close to tuning /w/ adequate port and you got a winner.
Otherwise the air is AGITATED and relys on wall area... jeez.
Aeros were a thing once weren't they?
Boundary layer air should be as quiet and stable as possible... flare it.
The things I know...
I hate to interject but Rob is toxic... this is a car audio site... GTFO
Try to keep up instead of trying to flex nutz by just prattling like a 2-beer drunk.
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