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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

What's wrong with taking responsibility for your choices?

Seems like a lot of responsibility given the choice. Luckily for the guys they have the option of just being financially responsible and I've seen where if they financially irresponsible for long enough, eventually they get away with that too.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

She would've been in the life threatening exception...everybody points to the 6 week part but somehow to neglect the rest...

Given that Ohio's AG was looking at charging the Doc in Indiana, they must disagree. Did her doc say her life was threatened? I don't recall any of her doc's mentioning her life was in danger. If it's true that her life was indeed in danger, I hope the good people of Ohio recall their AG for dereliction of duty and grand standing.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

What’s the solution to that problem?

The solution is to establish a nationwide system to hunt down these men and extract their DNA and perform genetic testing on any and all possible fathers to establish who is the father - an FBI of the DNA. Better yet, they should probably take a more proactive approach and just establish a genetic database when these young lads hit ~13-14 years old. Additionally, lets not forget child rearing is more than just a financial burden, but also time consuming, etc. So there will need be a system put in place to ensure these fathers are tethered to these mothers to share in the other responsibilities involved in child rearing, such as taking Johnny to soccer practice, parent teacher conferences, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The solution is to establish a nationwide system to hunt down these men and extract their DNA and perform genetic testing on any and all possible fathers to establish who is the father - an FBI of the DNA. Better yet, they should probably take a more proactive approach and just establish a genetic database when these young lads hit ~13-14 years old. Additionally, lets not forget child rearing is more than just a financial burden, but also time consuming, etc. So there will need be a system put in place to ensure these fathers are tethered to these mothers to share in the other responsibilities involved in child rearing, such as taking Johnny to soccer practice, parent teacher conferences, etc, etc, etc.

What about our rights to privacy? That would violate HIPAA, too. Are you suuuure you’re not a fascist?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Why do you ask one question then ask another right after?

1st question. Then they accept the responsibility and do what humans have done since forever and raise a child. Contraceptives are not a guarantee against pregnancy. Abstinence is. If you are willing to have *** then you accept that you may get pregnant or get someone pregnant.

2nd question. Then it is up to the parents what needs to be done next.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Why do you ask one question then ask another right after?

1st question. Then they accept the responsibility and do what humans have done since forever and raise a child. Contraceptives are not a guarantee against pregnancy. Abstinence is. If you are willing to have *** then you accept that you may get pregnant or get someone pregnant.

2nd question. Then it is up to the parents what needs to be done next.

You are o.k. with the 10 year old getting an abortion?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Given that Ohio's AG was looking at charging the Doc in Indiana, they must disagree. Did her doc say her life was threatened? I don't recall any of her doc's mentioning her life was in danger. If it's true that her life was indeed in danger, I hope the good people of Ohio recall their AG for dereliction of duty and grand standing.

A 10yo's body isn't ready for the rigors of child birth...there was extreme risk to carry to term...and the AG is investigating the doc for not properly handling the paperwork...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Seems like a lot of responsibility given the choice. Luckily for the guys they have the option of just being financially responsible and I've seen where if they financially irresponsible for long enough, eventually they get away with that too.

Then put more penalties on being a deadbeat dad...hold people accountable for the decisions they make...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Our society is steadily moving away from owning the consequences for our decisions...because owning your shiit is too hard...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A 10yo's body isn't ready for the rigors of child birth...there was extreme risk to carry to term...and the AG is investigating the doc for not properly handling the paperwork...

So doctor that has examined her has said there was an extreme risk. The AG grandstanding.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Mostly he is grandstanding but she didn't need to leave the state...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Then put more penalties on being a deadbeat dad...hold people accountable for the decisions they make...

Generally speaking, in civil actions you cannot be held accountable for above and beyond your financial responsibility. Are you suggesting we make being an irresponsible dad a criminal matter? What if dad's payments were always on time, but he was never really there for his child, is this also a crime? And are you sure you want gov't involved in these matters, after all (allegedly) gov't fuccs up more then they get it right....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Mostly he is grandstanding but she didn't need to leave the state...

Apparently she did since the state doesn't have a **** exception. I'm sure the AG, who should be the expert on the matter, would have brought up that she didn't need to leave the state if there was evidence her life was endangered. I agree her emotional and mental well being were endangered, but everything I've read states that Ohio law says her life must be in jeopardy.

Here's the problem with the pro-life crowd. They just can't admit when they're wrong. Of course there should be fuccing exceptions for **** and ****** but they won't admit it. Texas's civil enforcement of an abortion ban is so wrought with issues that clearly Texas should walk that back in light of Roe v Wade being overturned, but the won't. Colorado is going to become an abortion safe haven and we all know every one of her sister states will sue her and we know arrest warrants will be issued for Colorado docs who perform abortions for out of staters. So much for states rights

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I know the govt isn't the solution...but let's be clear it isn't just the father that made a decision, everybody involved needs to own the consequences in their choices...if you made a choice, the consequences don't make you a victim...and as for absentee parents, that happens in married couples as well...there's no fix for that...I know there's a lot of "what about this" "what about that" with this issue but in the if you make a choice the benefits and/or consequences are yours...and no I'm not talking about **** or anything forced...there should always be exceptions for that...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Vaccine induced AIDS from the constant production of spike proteins, which the body has to constantly fight off. It’s like being sick constantly, when your body has to fight off or respond to constant injections.

You don’t get to choose who does and who doesn’t get to make their personal health choices. Nice source, by the way.

‘The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.

The results provide hope that people receiving SARS-CoV-2 vaccines will develop similar lasting immune memories after vaccination.’ <- lol

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.

www.nih.gov

“Vaccine-induced AIDS”? What is your source? How exactly does the COVID vaccine cause AIDS?
Is Senator Johnson your source?
In interview, Sen. Johnson says it ‘may be true’ that COVID vaccines cause AIDS
BY: HENRY REDMAN - MAY 3, 2022 2:56 PM

The claim is conspiracy fantasy: https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...ccines-do-not-cause-hiv-or-aids-idUSL1N2UW10H

The body has longer memory of the vaccine than a natural immunity does, but you want natural immunity why?
How many deaths are acceptable until we build this natural immunity?
You fought against my greater good examples in the past, but it now seems you want to kill millions for the “greater good” of not using a vaccine that is tested and safe.

Please reconcile this contradiction.