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[SlugButter]

You don’t drive on streets? No fire department in your town? No police department? No post office? No EMTs? No electricity or water or sewer? No health insurance if you can’t afford it or get it through a job? No public schools?

You might want to consider moving to a place that has such things.

Every idiot democrat has the same response. We already pay the same level of taxes as socialist countries who get all those things, plus they have single payer healthcare and higher education. Our government has been screwing us for years.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, we get f*cked on taxes. The income tax is supposed to be illegal, because it’s literal slavery, like a mafia.

Most of our taxes don’t come back to us with help from the gov. Our money just dissappears into these black holes. Like look how many trillions is missing from the pentagon of taxpayer money. We pay taxes, the gov writes bills, and they line their corporate friends’ pockets. That’s just literally how it works.

You’re dumb if you think all the taxes we pay go to public services. That’s laughable.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

And the welfare state is causing unsuccessful people to reproduce at massive rates, so we’re gonna wind up like the society in idiocracy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Like we’re so fallen. So few people know how to actually critically think now. Everybody is an electronic junkie for entertainment. Our society has become like a giant high school. The immaturity level is there. All hearsay, and very few people actually know what they’re talking about. People are just repeaters, follow the “leaders” (straight into hell).

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Every idiot democrat has the same response. We already pay the same level of taxes as socialist countries who get all those things, plus they have single payer healthcare and higher education. Our government has been screwing us for years.

Using our Canadian neighbors as an example, they pay an average of $14,000 per year per capita. We pay an average of $11,000.
About a 25% difference. Given what I pay now, I’d consider a 25% increase to be significant. And I would expect the level of “return” to match that increase.
But, we pay less, we get less.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yeah, we get f*cked on taxes. The income tax is supposed to be illegal, because it’s literal slavery, like a mafia.

Most of our taxes don’t come back to us with help from the gov. Our money just dissappears into these black holes. Like look how many trillions is missing from the pentagon of taxpayer money. We pay taxes, the gov writes bills, and they line their corporate friends’ pockets. That’s just literally how it works.

You’re dumb if you think all the taxes we pay go to public services. That’s laughable.

When you start your post with a false premise (“income tax is supposed to be illegal”) it makes pretty much anything you say after that irrelevant.

Income tax is legal and has been upheld by the courts time and time again.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

When you start your post with a false premise (“income tax is supposed to be illegal”) it makes pretty much anything you say after that irrelevant.

Income tax is legal and has been upheld by the courts time and time again.

Income tax is indentured servitude which is supposed to be illegal under the constitution, because it's a form of slavery. I know you're not a real American, but I find it surprising anyone would make an argument to have less money in their pockets from the IRS gangster mafia.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Income tax means you're forced to directly work for the federal government. So, if the income tax is 10%, then that means if you work a 10 hours in a day, 1/10 hours you work is slavery for the federal government.

 

[SlugButter]

Using our Canadian neighbors as an example, they pay an average of $14,000 per year per capita. We pay an average of $11,000.
About a 25% difference. Given what I pay now, I’d consider a 25% increase to be significant. And I would expect the level of “return” to match that increase.
But, we pay less, we get less.

But we don’t need to pay more. I’m not disputing costs that the governments spend. Many of us pay out of pocket for prescriptions as well. The out of pocket costs aren’t factored in with those numbers I don’t think. The citizens in America are likely paying more per capita than any other country if you factor in prescription meds not covered by insurance. I’m assuming the Canadian healthcare system negotiates with big pharma to get low cost prescriptions like a lot of other countries do.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

But we don’t need to pay more. I’m not disputing costs that the governments spend. Many of us pay out of pocket for prescriptions as well. The out of pocket costs aren’t factored in with those numbers I don’t think. The citizens in America are likely paying more per capita than any other country if you factor in prescription meds not covered by insurance. I’m assuming the Canadian healthcare system negotiates with big pharma to get low cost prescriptions like a lot of other countries do.

I must have misunderstood your earlier statement that we pay the same level of taxes as socialist countries.

Factoring in the cost of prescriptions to the tax burden might be a hard sell, unless every single American had to get a lot of prescriptions all year, every year.
We pay an average of $1200 per year per person. I’m positing that if that burden was added to the annual taxes for a HH of 3 each year (call it “medicine tax”) it would still be less than adding 25% to those taxes.
The average HH tax burden is over $10k a year.
A 25% increase would be an additional $2,500 or double the “medicine tax” described earlier.

 

[SlugButter]

I must have misunderstood your earlier statement that we pay the same level of taxes as socialist countries.

Factoring in the cost of prescriptions to the tax burden might be a hard sell, unless every single American had to get a lot of prescriptions all year, every year.
We pay an average of $1200 per year per person. I’m positing that if that burden was added to the annual taxes for a HH of 3 each year (call it “medicine tax”) it would still be less than adding 25% to those taxes.
The average HH tax burden is over $10k a year.
A 25% increase would be an additional $2,500 or double the “medicine tax” described earlier.

What also isn’t factored in is uninsured Americans who refuse medical service based on cost. Free medical would ad another level of burden. Our systems are so different that straight numbers can’t be compared the way we try to compare them.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I can go on and on and on. There's just too many examples.

Is there 700,000 of them? Just wondering?

 

[perrin_07]

medicare is the best thing you could ask for over here in australia and id happily pay more tax for it to be better. go look at the nordic countries and see how well they do with it. theres no slavery with it....

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

100% at home employees being forced to be vaccinated or be fired... What is the covids gonna transfer through the computer screen???? LMFAO

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

medicare is the best thing you could ask for over here in australia and id happily pay more tax for it to be better. go look at the nordic countries and see how well they do with it. theres no slavery with it....

Yeah, there’s no slavery going on in Australia right now at all....