newer like maybe 2000+, i have a mp3000 in my car now that is getting replaced with the alpine cde-133bt i just ordered, i just was wondering about how they will compare to sound quality. This is the only deck i have been around for a long time so i have nothing to compare it to. I will say though it is very easy to use and the screen is great. It still works flawless but i want something with bluetooth or at least a usb port for my cell phone.