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<blockquote data-quote="squeak9798" data-source="post: 2659561" data-attributes="member: 555320"><p>Sorry, I should have clarified better.</p><p></p><p>That "punchy" sound has nothing to do with subwoofer size. A 10" is not inherently anymore "punchy" than a larger diameter sub.</p><p></p><p>The descriptive terms you are using are related to frequency response, not woofer diameter.</p><p></p><p>You create that same "punch" with <em>any</em> diameter subwoofer (assuming it's not inductance limited) by simply creating a nice little hump in the upper bass frequencies. It has nothing to do with woofer diameter.</p><p></p><p>There are many 10" subs on the market that perform very poorly in the near-midbass frequencies. There is nothing inherent there about the diameter of the woofer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not sure where you are getting that from....but it's not accurate in the slightest.</p><p></p><p>High frequency extension is primarily dictated by inductance, not diameter.</p><p></p><p>A friend of mine, for example, ran his 15" subs up to 90hz. The vehicle qualified for world finals that year, and likely would have placed very well if it wasn't for an equipment malfunction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not inherently. And to the contrary, so can many larger-than-10" subwoofers.</p><p></p><p>For some reason you have this misconception that 10" drivers inherently play higher....which is simply not the case.</p><p></p><p>With the limited bandwidth we are dealing with, <em>inductance</em> is the limiting factor in how high the subwoofer is capable of playing. Diameter plays virtually no role.</p><p></p><p>Give me a 10" subwoofer with high inductance and watch it fall flat on it's face trying to reproduce higher frequencies. Likewise give me a 15" with reasonable inductance and watch it excel well at those frequencies.</p><p></p><p>Also, it's very possible for any size subwoofer to hit those frequencies <em>very</em> well. Depends on the inductance and vehicle acoustics....but not diameter.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyone with a relatively decent concept of loudspeaker dynamics would disagree with that statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now you're just hallucinating</p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif</p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhh.....wow.....I'm not even sure how to respond that that nonsense //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif</p><p></p><p>Honestly; You need to spend some time actually learning about these topics before you begin formulating any more inherent "truths".....because so far you are <em>waayyy</em> off base....and that's leading you to faulty conclusions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squeak9798, post: 2659561, member: 555320"] Sorry, I should have clarified better. That "punchy" sound has nothing to do with subwoofer size. A 10" is not inherently anymore "punchy" than a larger diameter sub. The descriptive terms you are using are related to frequency response, not woofer diameter. You create that same "punch" with [I]any[/I] diameter subwoofer (assuming it's not inductance limited) by simply creating a nice little hump in the upper bass frequencies. It has nothing to do with woofer diameter. There are many 10" subs on the market that perform very poorly in the near-midbass frequencies. There is nothing inherent there about the diameter of the woofer. Not sure where you are getting that from....but it's not accurate in the slightest. High frequency extension is primarily dictated by inductance, not diameter. A friend of mine, for example, ran his 15" subs up to 90hz. The vehicle qualified for world finals that year, and likely would have placed very well if it wasn't for an equipment malfunction. Not inherently. And to the contrary, so can many larger-than-10" subwoofers. For some reason you have this misconception that 10" drivers inherently play higher....which is simply not the case. With the limited bandwidth we are dealing with, [I]inductance[/I] is the limiting factor in how high the subwoofer is capable of playing. Diameter plays virtually no role. Give me a 10" subwoofer with high inductance and watch it fall flat on it's face trying to reproduce higher frequencies. Likewise give me a 15" with reasonable inductance and watch it excel well at those frequencies. Also, it's very possible for any size subwoofer to hit those frequencies [I]very[/I] well. Depends on the inductance and vehicle acoustics....but not diameter. Anyone with a relatively decent concept of loudspeaker dynamics would disagree with that statement. Now you're just hallucinating Huh ? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif[/IMG] Uhh.....wow.....I'm not even sure how to respond that that nonsense [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif[/IMG] Honestly; You need to spend some time actually learning about these topics before you begin formulating any more inherent "truths".....because so far you are [I]waayyy[/I] off base....and that's leading you to faulty conclusions. [/QUOTE]
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