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<blockquote data-quote="squeak9798" data-source="post: 2655863" data-attributes="member: 555320"><p>Again, fantasy world vs reality.</p><p></p><p>A 10" sub is not "punchier" than a 13 (or 15). The diameter of the sub literally has nothing to do with high frequency output within the limited bandwidth we are dealing with. Likewise, that "boomy" sound is what some people prefer to call <em>actual subbass</em>. Not overemphasized midbass coming from a subwoofer....which is that "punch" you are referring to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you have no idea how to optimally design an enclosure for a subwoofer, integrate it into a system and properly tune it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhh....no.</p><p></p><p>You are incorrect in thinking that a smaller sealed enclosure is "more accurate" than a larger sealed enclosure. The exact opposite is indeed true.</p><p></p><p>Not sure what you mean by "less reverberation"...but smaller sealed enclosures actually have <em>worse</em> damping characteristics. That "tight punchy" sound isn't higher accuracy...it's an <em>overemphasis</em> of the upper bass/lower midbass frequency range.</p><p></p><p>They likewise have <em>higher</em> peak output than a larger sealed enclosure, and have less low frequency extension than a larger sealed enclosure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Larger sealed enclosures have <em>less</em> peak output than a small sealed enclosure, but more low frequency extension.</p><p></p><p>Larger sealed enclosures also lack the overemphasis of the upper bass (i.e. flatter frequency response) which is the reason they don't have that "punchy" sound. The "boomy muddy" sound many people ignorantly attribute to larger sealed enclosures is actually increased low frequency extension.....i.e. <em>true</em> <em>subbass output</em>....something they didn't have with those small sealed enclosures.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, larger sealed enclosures (i.e. lower Qtc) also have <em>better</em> damping characteristics than smaller sealed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You aren't "optimizing" anything, sorry to tell you.</p><p></p><p>It seems that much of your reasons for wanting to do this simply comes from your misunderstanding of many of these topics.</p><p></p><p>A single size of subwoofer(s), in a well designed enclosure (or no enclosure at all if dealing with infinite baffle, the preferred method among many "audiophile" types), with proper tuning and integration will do exactly what you want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squeak9798, post: 2655863, member: 555320"] Again, fantasy world vs reality. A 10" sub is not "punchier" than a 13 (or 15). The diameter of the sub literally has nothing to do with high frequency output within the limited bandwidth we are dealing with. Likewise, that "boomy" sound is what some people prefer to call [I]actual subbass[/I]. Not overemphasized midbass coming from a subwoofer....which is that "punch" you are referring to. Then you have no idea how to optimally design an enclosure for a subwoofer, integrate it into a system and properly tune it. Agreed. Uhh....no. You are incorrect in thinking that a smaller sealed enclosure is "more accurate" than a larger sealed enclosure. The exact opposite is indeed true. Not sure what you mean by "less reverberation"...but smaller sealed enclosures actually have [I]worse[/I] damping characteristics. That "tight punchy" sound isn't higher accuracy...it's an [I]overemphasis[/I] of the upper bass/lower midbass frequency range. They likewise have [I]higher[/I] peak output than a larger sealed enclosure, and have less low frequency extension than a larger sealed enclosure. Again, incorrect. Larger sealed enclosures have [I]less[/I] peak output than a small sealed enclosure, but more low frequency extension. Larger sealed enclosures also lack the overemphasis of the upper bass (i.e. flatter frequency response) which is the reason they don't have that "punchy" sound. The "boomy muddy" sound many people ignorantly attribute to larger sealed enclosures is actually increased low frequency extension.....i.e. [I]true[/I] [I]subbass output[/I]....something they didn't have with those small sealed enclosures. Likewise, larger sealed enclosures (i.e. lower Qtc) also have [I]better[/I] damping characteristics than smaller sealed. You aren't "optimizing" anything, sorry to tell you. It seems that much of your reasons for wanting to do this simply comes from your misunderstanding of many of these topics. A single size of subwoofer(s), in a well designed enclosure (or no enclosure at all if dealing with infinite baffle, the preferred method among many "audiophile" types), with proper tuning and integration will do exactly what you want. [/QUOTE]
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