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<blockquote data-quote="thylantyr" data-source="post: 2912805" data-attributes="member: 560358"><p><strong>to me the rotel did help sq in certain ways but mostly it just made my setup louder. and me i really dont want it to be louder i just want more of a warm sound. </strong></p><p></p><p>If you tried a more powerful amp and it just made it louder, that implies the</p><p></p><p>comparison amps didn't add audible coloration to the signal path. If you</p><p></p><p>want a warm sound then you are looking for signal processing on the electronics</p><p></p><p>end, perhaps in the form of an EQ *or* you need speakers that give you that</p><p></p><p>sonic character. It's cheaper to make the sound 'warm' on the source side</p><p></p><p>by using an EQ than to buy expensive amplifiers. You need to mess with</p><p></p><p>the frequency response and gremlinize it.</p><p></p><p>You also said you don't want the system louder. Do you blame the sound system</p><p></p><p>for being too loud or do you blame the human controlling the volume knob?</p><p></p><p>.................. hehehehe ..................</p><p></p><p><strong>i doubt i can find better sounding speakers for 2k</strong></p><p></p><p>That's the problem. If you want to improve SQ, finding better speakers becomes</p><p></p><p>more problematic as the price soars beyond imagination. If you can't</p><p></p><p>afford $25k - $50k commercial speakers, they try to capture SQ by means of</p><p></p><p>electronics hoping to score big, but the big score is never really as big as it</p><p></p><p>could be.</p><p></p><p>That's why the DIY speaker crowd is large, people want the $50k sound</p><p></p><p>for $2.5k - $5k, DIY style. Then hooking up any reasonably good amp</p><p></p><p>will do the job well. Fit and finish can be sacrificed vs. pretty store speakers if the sound rules.</p><p></p><p>Even though I recommended QSC PLX amps in PM, realistically many</p><p></p><p>times 'system design' is more important than the individual pieces. For example,</p><p></p><p>I could design a custom sound system for someone using lower cost Crown XLS</p><p></p><p>amps as long as I know the customer was satisfied with the speaker choice.</p><p></p><p>I use PLX because I drive the system hard at very low impedances and I want</p><p></p><p>the amp to be capable of operating way below published spec.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I just saw new pics of XLS version D amps, looks improved over the</p><p></p><p>old design. It might actually drive a subwoofer now, rofl.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842859" target="_blank">http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842859</a></p><p></p><p>Most people get annoyed with proamp fans, the wind noise bugs them,</p><p></p><p>many do fan replacements for a reasonable fee. I didn't do any fan mods</p><p></p><p>to mine, it doesn't bug me.</p><p></p><p>I think a stack of proamps is more aggressive looking than a single Krell</p><p></p><p>or exotic amp.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/proamps/xti.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/proamps/xti.jpg</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thylantyr, post: 2912805, member: 560358"] [B]to me the rotel did help sq in certain ways but mostly it just made my setup louder. and me i really dont want it to be louder i just want more of a warm sound. [/B] If you tried a more powerful amp and it just made it louder, that implies the comparison amps didn't add audible coloration to the signal path. If you want a warm sound then you are looking for signal processing on the electronics end, perhaps in the form of an EQ *or* you need speakers that give you that sonic character. It's cheaper to make the sound 'warm' on the source side by using an EQ than to buy expensive amplifiers. You need to mess with the frequency response and gremlinize it. You also said you don't want the system louder. Do you blame the sound system for being too loud or do you blame the human controlling the volume knob? .................. hehehehe .................. [B]i doubt i can find better sounding speakers for 2k[/B] That's the problem. If you want to improve SQ, finding better speakers becomes more problematic as the price soars beyond imagination. If you can't afford $25k - $50k commercial speakers, they try to capture SQ by means of electronics hoping to score big, but the big score is never really as big as it could be. That's why the DIY speaker crowd is large, people want the $50k sound for $2.5k - $5k, DIY style. Then hooking up any reasonably good amp will do the job well. Fit and finish can be sacrificed vs. pretty store speakers if the sound rules. Even though I recommended QSC PLX amps in PM, realistically many times 'system design' is more important than the individual pieces. For example, I could design a custom sound system for someone using lower cost Crown XLS amps as long as I know the customer was satisfied with the speaker choice. I use PLX because I drive the system hard at very low impedances and I want the amp to be capable of operating way below published spec. BTW, I just saw new pics of XLS version D amps, looks improved over the old design. It might actually drive a subwoofer now, rofl. [URL="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842859"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842859[/URL] Most people get annoyed with proamp fans, the wind noise bugs them, many do fan replacements for a reasonable fee. I didn't do any fan mods to mine, it doesn't bug me. I think a stack of proamps is more aggressive looking than a single Krell or exotic amp. [URL="http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/proamps/xti.jpg"]http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/proamps/xti.jpg[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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