Teenagers **** !

[Mr. Loki 5,000+ posts]

Sorry it corrected a curse word..make that amsterdam

 

[CarAudioAddict 10+ year member]

amsterdam...

Been there, great place.

Low crime, more freedom, and the economy is thriving

Also where do I say I smoked weed???

I can't find it.

I agree with the legalization of it, and I know alot about. After all I did a project in school about it.

Actually I've never smoked weed in my life. Many of my friends do and I' ve considered trying it, but until it is legalized, and it will be (canada is working on it now), It's not worth the risk of jail time

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

I want all of the information regarding it being legalized in Canada.

- Steve

 

[CarAudioAddict 10+ year member]

I only know what I've read in the papers.

Back in July, there was an article about the legalization of weed.

It mentioned that the Bill had made it through the House of commons and the cabinet and was just waiting for approval by the senate and the queen's representative.

I know that sometimes it can take months for anything to make it through the senate. If the senate disapproves the bill goes back to the house of commons for revisions, this can happen for up to three passes through the different levels. After the third pass (which may be months or even years down the line), if it has still not been approved, the bill is revoked and must be re-submitted for the same process.

If the senate passes the bill the chances are about 99% that it will make all teh way through the govt. The queen/king has only used her/his power to veto once in the past 135 years.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

I'm sure its going to take a while to pass that bill...

What did the King/Queen veto? Mustve been something crazy if it hasnt happened more often.

- Steve

 

[Mr. Loki 5,000+ posts]

Yes amsterdam is a great place and you can smoke marijuana freely....they even sell it to you in back alley stores......awwww the life in europe...many great things to check out...

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by CarAudioAddict I can think of many reasons weed should be legalized

 

1. People who are high will get along better (never seen a brawl caused by weed, lots by alcohol)

 

2. In order to O.D. on weed you'd have to smoke about 100lbs in under an hour(to yourself), as far as I can figure you would pass out long before you would come anywhere near that

 

3. Weed doesn't impare your reaction time - although some varieties do impare your thought processes, but have a nap and you are pretty well normal again. I would rather see people driving around HIGH then drunk

 

4. The "1 joint = 10 cigarettes" anology is about as true as the "greenhouse effect" (which scietists have proven wrong in the past couple of years, the earth experiences temperature increases every few thousand years and scientists have determined that we have been experiencing this NATURAL occurence over the past 200 years or so)

 

5. Natives, and I'm sure 100's of other cultures, have been smoking weed for 1000's of years and they new how to live a hell of a lot better than we "modernized" cultures do. And I'm pretty sure if it was as bad for you as people think then those cultures wouldbe extinct, but most are still thriving today (although we "white" folk forced them on to pathetic reserves and took away most of their freedoms)

 

6. Weed is not addictive to most people. The majority of pot smokers smoke it because they want to not because they crave it, or heir body "needs" it.

 

7. The government could make 100X as much money of the taxatio of weed than they do off cigarettes. Thus they could reduce other taxes (like GST, PST, STATE, INCOME), more likely though the money would end up in the beauracracies pockets.

 

8. Your body can, and will, process the THC in weed. Where as it cannot process alcohol or nicotine, these substances are passed through your blood system and out of the body. THC is taken in by the cells and broken down and used by the body.

 

9. Cigarettes kill 20,000+ people every year, alcohol about the same (including those not drunk but killed by a drunk), Weed, to my knowledge, has never resulted in death.

 

10. Weed, plain and simple, is not a drug. Drugs are produced by man, weed is a product of evolution, even though the most potent varieties are produced by careful breeding and growth, they are still natural, these varieties would have eventually been around, just would ahve taken alt longer if not for man intervention.

 

11. Many people are more creative and productive on weed, although some are not

 

Reasons alcohol and cigarettes should be illegal:

 

1. Acohol KILLS. Both the person consuming it, and the people unfortunate to come in contact with a drunk driver.

 

2. Cigarettes KILL, more than 25% of most health car budgets are the result of cigarette smokers, these people are a HUGE drain on society.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those of you here that are ANTI-WEED, one simple instruction for you. Take any music or movies you own and throw them out, about 95% of these were created by people who were/are high. If you buy products that were produced by someone who was high at the time, you are endorsing their use of weed, and so supporting it. How can you be against it if you support it? I see a contradiction here.

I dont even want to start cause this could get long and ugly, but I would just like to say a few things. I hate weed and see no point to it. I am a cigarette smoker, but I would like not to be and I am trying to quit. I drink alcohol because I have a pretty serious stomach / intestine problem and the ingredients in beer help to keep my stomach in-line...(100% true). Now lets get to the point...I have been down every road possible, I quit everything but cigs and beer about a year and a half ago. Most of my friends are still pot-heads and such. That is my background, so here goes.

1. Marijuana will not make people get along any better, it will just make the conversation all about 'getting high'

2. For the most part that is true, but not completely.

3. Doesnt affect reaction time? It does, just in a different way that alcohol does. They are different chemicals with different effects. I would not like to see people driving high any more that I would like to see someone drive drunk.

4. You are incorrect. The amount of tar that marijuana contains, not to mention the 1000's of other chemicals, rivals a pack of Marlboro's.

5. Dont even want to start that arguement.

6. Correct. Marijuana is not addictive, however a regular smoker becomes attached to the feeling of being 'high' and that affects their daily life greatly. How many times have to asked someone to actually go do something and they would rather stay home and smoke?

7. The government would make more money off of marijuana than they do while it is illegal, but it would not be a large enough amount to cut out all the other taxes you mentioned. Not that many people are users.

8. Yeah THC is absorbed in BRAIN CELLS. Do you know what the term "stoned" referrs to? Chemicals in marijuana go to brain cells and harden the cell wall, resulting in significant loss in synapse activity...translation: it makes you stupid.

9. Search, you will find death cases related to marijuana. If you want to relate lung cancer, heart cancer, etc. to tobacco you might as well relate it to marijuana.

10. Marijuana is a drug...do you know your definitions? And also...the chemicals used to 'expand' the growing process to produce new, more potent forms of marijuana would make it not natural.

11. Hippies ****.

Alcohol has caused many accidents, but who is to say that the legalization of marijuana wouldnt add the amount of DUI's?

By supporting marijuana you are supporting the taliban! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[CarAudioAddict 10+ year member]

Most of my "pot-head" friends would rather be out doing somethin' instead of staying at home. Sure they have regular tokes, buts thats part of their lives, a healthier choice than alcohol.

A recent study showed that on average about 75-80 percent of americans/canadians have or still do smoke weed. It also showed that those who smoke weed, have lower blood pressure levels and are, in general, more creative and productive in society.

To support my claim about supporting marijuana use through supporting bands here is a list of Bands/musicians that smoke weed.

Brooklyn Bounce

Blink 182

Korn

NO-FX

3 doors down

ACDC

Ace of Base

Aqua

Aquagen

Savage Garden

Sublime

Stone Temple pilots

Ramstein

Punk Covers

Prozzak

Our Lady Peace

Offspring

Moist

Eminem

Dr. Dre

MXPX

Matchbox 20

Love inc.

Eiffel 65

Jewel

J-lo

Kid Rock

P-diddy

The Eagles

Down By Law

Bush

Bloodhound Gag

(enter your favorite bands here)

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by CarAudioAddict  

NO-FX

3 doors down

ACDC

Savage Garden

Sublime

Punk Covers

Eminem

Dr. Dre

MXPX

The Eagles

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- Steve

**Oi oi were the brews, sportin' anti-swatstika tatoo's**

 

[Corsica 5,000+ posts]

Brock I ain't gonna argue heavily with ya but u seem to be slightly infored on some stats of weed man. 1. The govt makes TONS of $$$ off pot as it is now. The reason its not legal is beacuse if it was everyone could gfrow it cause unlike tobacco, marijawana can be grown anywhere, and if u plant say 20 plants aroun 10-17 should give buds back, with no problem. I am a toker, I'll be honest. A few family members are/were too. You drive 1 trillion times better with a lil buzz than u do when ur drunk. Driving whit intoxicated and driving while stoned are 2 TOTALLY different things. I can say I've driven really stoned a few times, and I pay more attention to the road, and my speed than I do when sober cause 55 feels fast then it does normally. Sure pot makes ya "stupid" but it goes away with a lil nap.

As far as pot doing damage to ur body?? No it don't man. Pot has been proven to actually have good chemicals in it for one, and 2 compair the chemicals in the pot u grow urself to those u buy. a percentage of what u buy is sprayed with chemicals, and the stuff u grow is covered only with what u cover it with. Pot is a de stresser and fights don't occur between stoners beacuse it makes ur mind relaxed where as alcohol makes you on edge, and ready to scrap. Also Pot has NO cases of death or dease cause to people who smoke ONLY pot. Smoke a lil tobacco, or something else sure they do, but pot alone won't do it man, it just don't hut ya!! Either way u look @ it pot is better for ya than most other things.

J

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Corsica Brock I ain't gonna argue heavily with ya but u seem to be slightly infored on some stats of weed man. 1. The govt makes TONS of $$$ off pot as it is now. The reason its not legal is beacuse if it was everyone could gfrow it cause unlike tobacco, marijawana can be grown anywhere, and if u plant say 20 plants aroun 10-17 should give buds back, with no problem. I am a toker, I'll be honest. A few family members are/were too. You drive 1 trillion times better with a lil buzz than u do when ur drunk. Driving whit intoxicated and driving while stoned are 2 TOTALLY different things. I can say I've driven really stoned a few times, and I pay more attention to the road, and my speed than I do when sober cause 55 feels fast then it does normally. Sure pot makes ya "stupid" but it goes away with a lil nap.

 

As far as pot doing damage to ur body?? No it don't man. Pot has been proven to actually have good chemicals in it for one, and 2 compair the chemicals in the pot u grow urself to those u buy. a percentage of what u buy is sprayed with chemicals, and the stuff u grow is covered only with what u cover it with. Pot is a de stresser and fights don't occur between stoners beacuse it makes ur mind relaxed where as alcohol makes you on edge, and ready to scrap. Also Pot has NO cases of death or dease cause to people who smoke ONLY pot. Smoke a lil tobacco, or something else sure they do, but pot alone won't do it man, it just don't hut ya!! Either way u look @ it pot is better for ya than most other things.

 

J

Man I dont know where your facts are coming from, but you might want to check the accuracy of them. Seriously.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

unfortunetely folks, brock is correct. pot does indeed harm the human body. from lung damage to brain damage to nerve damage. as does alcohol, cigs and just about any other drug u can think of. while pot, in most cases, does indeed induce a "calming" effect, it is still not good for anybody. i, too, am a reefer head. but i also know the truth, it's the mis-conseptions about pot, and drugs, that is the most damaging. if u don't think pot smoking is hurting u, think again. there are some things about pot that is indeed better then alcohol...

1: most people who smoke are indeed "laid back", when a person is truly "stoned" there is nothing more in that persons mind then sleep. whereas, some people who drink, especially whiskey, tend to feel "ten feet tall and bullet proof".

2: pot, while still damaging the body, doesn't harm as many organs. does this make it safer? no, just a little less dangerous.

3: because pot is illegal, it's not done in public areas, hence less trouble from it. refer to #2.

anyway, while i don't believe pot is as addictive as cigs or alcohol, in the right people is it addictive. i don't believe it's a "step-up"drug either. why? because most other drugs tend to "pick u up", rather then calm u down. if u enjoy being calm, y would u want to "speed up"? i would like to see it legalized as well. i don't believe it to be any worse then cigs or alcohol, so why not legalize it?

i'll shut-up now....

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

http://www.weedguru.com/agamed.php

http://www.weedguru.com/lego.php

- Steve

 

[Mr. Loki 5,000+ posts]

This was a must to add.....Weed is better than most other substances, because look doctors and scientist prescribe it to pregnant women to help them eat when they feel as though they cant hold anything down....I mean they dont just smoke it or anything, buts used and controlled and formed into a pill....If it was one medical use then why not make it legal and look more into experiments.....Cateracts.....need I say more? Im not for it nor against it though...I really dont care if you smoke it or not......With that same not there are recorded deaths under the high of marijuana....A case were a young male around age 19-23 was so high he thought he could fly..therefor attempted it and didnt make it.....It happened in New York city.....

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Originally posted by ss3079 http://www.weedguru.com/agamed.php

http://www.weedguru.com/lego.php

 

- Steve

thnx steve...everybody who has posted in this thread needs to read the first link.....that second link???who'd thunk??/ lmao //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif