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<blockquote data-quote="Alrojoca" data-source="post: 8074285" data-attributes="member: 638714"><p>This info is great and it should help You too</p><p></p><p>Reload Thread: good info for amp settings</p><p></p><p>Thread Tools</p><p></p><p>Search Thread</p><p></p><p>1 Week Ago <a href="http:////forums/usertag.php?do=list&amp;action=hash&amp;hash=1" target="_blank">#1</a> Rockguy475</p><p></p><p>Senior VIP Member</p><p></p><p>Join Date</p><p></p><p>Jan 2006</p><p></p><p>Location</p><p></p><p>houston</p><p></p><p>Posts</p><p></p><p>492</p><p></p><p>Post Thanks / Like</p><p></p><p>Mentioned</p><p></p><p>0 Post(s)</p><p></p><p>good info for amp settings</p><p></p><p>took a little bit of searching to find this....</p><p></p><p>Originally Posted by Jmac</p><p></p><p>Amplifier Setting Tutorial</p><p></p><p>Outline:</p><p></p><p>Setting up an amplifier can be a very confusing and intimidating process for newbies. I created this to help guide those people through the process in what I consider to be a simple and easy way.</p><p></p><p>Preparation:</p><p></p><p>Things you should do and will need:</p><p></p><p>1) Read the owner’s manual(s)</p><p></p><p>2) Familiarize yourself with your equipment</p><p></p><p>3) Determine the final load of your speaker(s)/sub(s)</p><p></p><p>4) A calculator</p><p></p><p>5) A digital multimeter</p><p></p><p>6) A test tone CD</p><p></p><p>7) A print-out of this guide</p><p></p><p>8) A pen or pencil</p><p></p><p>9) A notepad</p><p></p><p>Note: All tests should be done with the engine running while using the calculation methods, at least for the part where you’re measuring.</p><p></p><p>Step 1: Setting up your head unit</p><p></p><p>1) Turn off all filters (low-pass and high-pass)</p><p></p><p>2) Set your EQ settings to 0 (i.e. Bass, Treble, Mid)</p><p></p><p>3) Turn off loudness</p><p></p><p>4) If you won’t be using the head unit’s internal amp, turn it off (if possible)</p><p></p><p>Step 2: Choosing the test tones you’ll use</p><p></p><p>Tones can be found here: Test Tones</p><p></p><p>I’ve provided 4 different sets of tones and I’ll give a brief description of why one would use that particular set of tones.</p><p></p><p>0 dB:</p><p></p><p>Pros – No chance of clipping, very small chance of damaging equipment</p><p></p><p>Cons – Most music won’t reach 0 dB unless you’re running full range speakers, so you probably won’t get full performance</p><p></p><p>-3 dB:</p><p></p><p>Pros – Small chance of clipping with music in subs, small chance of damaging equipment, better performance than 0 dB</p><p></p><p>Cons – Small amount of clipping on peaks with some music (speakers)</p><p></p><p>-6 dB:</p><p></p><p>Pros – Better performance than -3 dB and 0 dB</p><p></p><p>Cons – User must be able to detect stress in equipment to prevent damage, moderate amount of clipping with some music (speakers), small amount of clipping with some music (subs)</p><p></p><p>-10 dB:</p><p></p><p>Not recommended for amateurs</p><p></p><p>As implied in the above descriptions, the choice of music you listen to may influence the tones you use as well. With pretty much all genres, I found that the mids had peaks above -1 dB, so I wouldn’t recommend that newbies use anything higher than -3 dB for setting the speaker amplifier. However, bass (20 Hz - 80 Hz), is a completely different story. I’ve analyzed a few dozen different songs from a variety of genres with Adobe Audition and here are some briefs descriptions.</p><p></p><p>Rap/Hip-Hop/Pop – Most of the songs in these genres had peaks in the -9 dB to -3 dB range. I recommend using 0 dB or -3 dB tones if you primarily listen to these genres.</p><p></p><p>Rock/Metal/Jazz/Classical – Most of the songs in this genre had peaks in the -12 to -6 dB range. I recommend using 0 dB, -3 dB, or -6 dB tones if you primarily listen to these genres.</p><p></p><p>After choosing the tones, download them and burn them to a CD.</p><p></p><p>Step 3: Setting up your speakers</p><p></p><p>If using the head unit’s internal amplifier:</p><p></p><p>Method 1: By ear</p><p></p><p>1) Using music you’re familiar with, turn up the volume until you begin to notice distortion or you achieve the desired volume (whichever comes first)</p><p></p><p>2) Write down the volume</p><p></p><p>3) Change music to a bass heavy track and set to repeat (if your HU has no HPF, disregard this and the following)</p><p></p><p>4) Turn on the high-pass filter and set to the highest frequency</p><p></p><p>5) Turn up the volume to the volume written in Step 2</p><p></p><p>6) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion</p><p></p><p>7) Use the lowest HPF frequency with no distortion</p><p></p><p>8) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit</p><p></p><p>Method 2: Calculation</p><p></p><p>1) Open your owner’s manuals and find the RMS power output of your head unit’s internal amplifier and the rated RMS input for your speakers. Write down both and use the lower of the two in the next step.</p><p></p><p>2) Calculate the desired voltage using the formula: Voltage = SQRT(Power*Resistance)</p><p></p><p>3) Write down the desired voltage</p><p></p><p>4) Set the volume to 0 and turn off the head unit</p><p></p><p>5) Unhook one of the speakers</p><p></p><p>6) Attach the leads of the multimeter to the speaker wires (do not ground speaker wires or leads)</p><p></p><p>7) Set multimeter to measure AC voltage</p><p></p><p>8) Turn on the head unit</p><p></p><p>9) Adjust the balance and fade to only the speaker that is unhooked (i.e. If using front right speaker, balance to the right and fade to the front)</p><p></p><p>10) Insert the test tone CD</p><p></p><p>11) Fast forward to the 1000 Hz track and set to repeat track</p><p></p><p>12) Turn volume up until you achieve the desired voltage</p><p></p><p>13) Write down the volume</p><p></p><p>14) Turn the volume down to 0 and shut the head unit off</p><p></p><p>15) Unhook the leads from the speaker wires</p><p></p><p>16) Hook the speaker back up and remount</p><p></p><p>17) Turn the head unit back on (if your HU has no HPF, disregard this and the following)</p><p></p><p>18) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat</p><p></p><p>19) Turn on the high-pass filter and set to the highest frequency</p><p></p><p>20) Turn up the volume to the volume written in Step 13</p><p></p><p>21) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion</p><p></p><p>22) Use the lowest HPF frequency with no distortion</p><p></p><p>23) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit</p><p></p><p>24) In the future, do not exceed the volume written in step 13</p><p></p><p>If using dedicated speaker amplifier:</p><p></p><p>Method 1: By ear</p><p></p><p>1) Turn the gain/sensitivity all the way down (counter-clockwise)</p><p></p><p>2) Turn head unit on</p><p></p><p>3) Insert music you’re familiar with</p><p></p><p>4) Turn volume up to maximum volume you will normally use or 80% of maximum volume</p><p></p><p>5) Turn the gain up until you reach the desired volume or you notice audible distortion</p><p></p><p>6) Turn the volume down</p><p></p><p>7) Turn the high-pass filter on. If your HU and amp both have HPFs, use the one with the most flexibility (continuously variable &gt; selectable &gt; fixed) (if your head unit and amplifier have no HPF, disregard this and the following)</p><p></p><p>8) Turn the HPF up to the highest frequency</p><p></p><p>9) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat</p><p></p><p>10) Turn the volume up to the volume written in Step 9</p><p></p><p>11) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion</p><p></p><p>12) Use the lowest frequency with no audible distortion</p><p></p><p>13) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off the head unit</p><p></p><p>Method 2: Calculation</p><p></p><p>1) Open your owner’s manuals and find the RMS power output of your amplifier and the rated RMS input of your speakers. Write down both and use the lower of the two in the next step.</p><p></p><p>2) Calculate the desired voltage using the formula: Voltage = SQRT(Power*Resistance)</p><p></p><p>3) Write down the desired voltage</p><p></p><p>4) Turn the gain/sensitivity all the way down (counter-clockwise)</p><p></p><p>5) Unhook all speakers from the amplifier (unhook at the amplifier, not at the speakers)</p><p></p><p>6) Insert leads of multimeter into one of the channels and tighten slightly</p><p></p><p>7) Set multimeter to measure AC voltage</p><p></p><p>8) Turn head unit on</p><p></p><p>9) Insert test tone CD</p><p></p><p>10) Set track to 1000 Hz and set to repeat</p><p></p><p>11) Turn volume up to maximum volume you will normally use or 80% of maximum volume</p><p></p><p>12) Write down the volume</p><p></p><p>13) Slowly turn the gain up until you reach the desired voltage</p><p></p><p>14) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit</p><p></p><p>15) Remove multimeter leads from the amplifier</p><p></p><p>16) Hook speakers back up to the amplifier</p><p></p><p>17) Turn head unit on (if your head unit and amplifier have no HPF, disregard this and the following)</p><p></p><p>18) Turn the high-pass filter on. If your HU and amp both have HPFs, use the one with the most flexibility (continuously variable &gt; selectable &gt; fixed)</p><p></p><p>19) Turn the HPF up to the highest frequency</p><p></p><p>20) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat track</p><p></p><p>21) Turn the volume up to the volume written in Step 12</p><p></p><p>22) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion</p><p></p><p>23) Use the lowest frequency with no audible distortion</p><p></p><p>24) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off the head unit</p><p></p><p>25) In the future, do not exceed the volume written in Step 12</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alrojoca, post: 8074285, member: 638714"] This info is great and it should help You too Reload Thread: good info for amp settings Thread Tools Search Thread 1 Week Ago [URL="http:////forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1"]#1[/URL] Rockguy475 Senior VIP Member Join Date Jan 2006 Location houston Posts 492 Post Thanks / Like Mentioned 0 Post(s) good info for amp settings took a little bit of searching to find this.... Originally Posted by Jmac Amplifier Setting Tutorial Outline: Setting up an amplifier can be a very confusing and intimidating process for newbies. I created this to help guide those people through the process in what I consider to be a simple and easy way. Preparation: Things you should do and will need: 1) Read the owner’s manual(s) 2) Familiarize yourself with your equipment 3) Determine the final load of your speaker(s)/sub(s) 4) A calculator 5) A digital multimeter 6) A test tone CD 7) A print-out of this guide 8) A pen or pencil 9) A notepad Note: All tests should be done with the engine running while using the calculation methods, at least for the part where you’re measuring. Step 1: Setting up your head unit 1) Turn off all filters (low-pass and high-pass) 2) Set your EQ settings to 0 (i.e. Bass, Treble, Mid) 3) Turn off loudness 4) If you won’t be using the head unit’s internal amp, turn it off (if possible) Step 2: Choosing the test tones you’ll use Tones can be found here: Test Tones I’ve provided 4 different sets of tones and I’ll give a brief description of why one would use that particular set of tones. 0 dB: Pros – No chance of clipping, very small chance of damaging equipment Cons – Most music won’t reach 0 dB unless you’re running full range speakers, so you probably won’t get full performance -3 dB: Pros – Small chance of clipping with music in subs, small chance of damaging equipment, better performance than 0 dB Cons – Small amount of clipping on peaks with some music (speakers) -6 dB: Pros – Better performance than -3 dB and 0 dB Cons – User must be able to detect stress in equipment to prevent damage, moderate amount of clipping with some music (speakers), small amount of clipping with some music (subs) -10 dB: Not recommended for amateurs As implied in the above descriptions, the choice of music you listen to may influence the tones you use as well. With pretty much all genres, I found that the mids had peaks above -1 dB, so I wouldn’t recommend that newbies use anything higher than -3 dB for setting the speaker amplifier. However, bass (20 Hz - 80 Hz), is a completely different story. I’ve analyzed a few dozen different songs from a variety of genres with Adobe Audition and here are some briefs descriptions. Rap/Hip-Hop/Pop – Most of the songs in these genres had peaks in the -9 dB to -3 dB range. I recommend using 0 dB or -3 dB tones if you primarily listen to these genres. Rock/Metal/Jazz/Classical – Most of the songs in this genre had peaks in the -12 to -6 dB range. I recommend using 0 dB, -3 dB, or -6 dB tones if you primarily listen to these genres. After choosing the tones, download them and burn them to a CD. Step 3: Setting up your speakers If using the head unit’s internal amplifier: Method 1: By ear 1) Using music you’re familiar with, turn up the volume until you begin to notice distortion or you achieve the desired volume (whichever comes first) 2) Write down the volume 3) Change music to a bass heavy track and set to repeat (if your HU has no HPF, disregard this and the following) 4) Turn on the high-pass filter and set to the highest frequency 5) Turn up the volume to the volume written in Step 2 6) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion 7) Use the lowest HPF frequency with no distortion 8) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit Method 2: Calculation 1) Open your owner’s manuals and find the RMS power output of your head unit’s internal amplifier and the rated RMS input for your speakers. Write down both and use the lower of the two in the next step. 2) Calculate the desired voltage using the formula: Voltage = SQRT(Power*Resistance) 3) Write down the desired voltage 4) Set the volume to 0 and turn off the head unit 5) Unhook one of the speakers 6) Attach the leads of the multimeter to the speaker wires (do not ground speaker wires or leads) 7) Set multimeter to measure AC voltage 8) Turn on the head unit 9) Adjust the balance and fade to only the speaker that is unhooked (i.e. If using front right speaker, balance to the right and fade to the front) 10) Insert the test tone CD 11) Fast forward to the 1000 Hz track and set to repeat track 12) Turn volume up until you achieve the desired voltage 13) Write down the volume 14) Turn the volume down to 0 and shut the head unit off 15) Unhook the leads from the speaker wires 16) Hook the speaker back up and remount 17) Turn the head unit back on (if your HU has no HPF, disregard this and the following) 18) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat 19) Turn on the high-pass filter and set to the highest frequency 20) Turn up the volume to the volume written in Step 13 21) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion 22) Use the lowest HPF frequency with no distortion 23) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit 24) In the future, do not exceed the volume written in step 13 If using dedicated speaker amplifier: Method 1: By ear 1) Turn the gain/sensitivity all the way down (counter-clockwise) 2) Turn head unit on 3) Insert music you’re familiar with 4) Turn volume up to maximum volume you will normally use or 80% of maximum volume 5) Turn the gain up until you reach the desired volume or you notice audible distortion 6) Turn the volume down 7) Turn the high-pass filter on. If your HU and amp both have HPFs, use the one with the most flexibility (continuously variable > selectable > fixed) (if your head unit and amplifier have no HPF, disregard this and the following) 8) Turn the HPF up to the highest frequency 9) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat 10) Turn the volume up to the volume written in Step 9 11) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion 12) Use the lowest frequency with no audible distortion 13) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off the head unit Method 2: Calculation 1) Open your owner’s manuals and find the RMS power output of your amplifier and the rated RMS input of your speakers. Write down both and use the lower of the two in the next step. 2) Calculate the desired voltage using the formula: Voltage = SQRT(Power*Resistance) 3) Write down the desired voltage 4) Turn the gain/sensitivity all the way down (counter-clockwise) 5) Unhook all speakers from the amplifier (unhook at the amplifier, not at the speakers) 6) Insert leads of multimeter into one of the channels and tighten slightly 7) Set multimeter to measure AC voltage 8) Turn head unit on 9) Insert test tone CD 10) Set track to 1000 Hz and set to repeat 11) Turn volume up to maximum volume you will normally use or 80% of maximum volume 12) Write down the volume 13) Slowly turn the gain up until you reach the desired voltage 14) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off head unit 15) Remove multimeter leads from the amplifier 16) Hook speakers back up to the amplifier 17) Turn head unit on (if your head unit and amplifier have no HPF, disregard this and the following) 18) Turn the high-pass filter on. If your HU and amp both have HPFs, use the one with the most flexibility (continuously variable > selectable > fixed) 19) Turn the HPF up to the highest frequency 20) Insert a bass heavy track and set to repeat track 21) Turn the volume up to the volume written in Step 12 22) Turn down the HPF frequency until you begin to notice audible distortion 23) Use the lowest frequency with no audible distortion 24) Turn the volume down to 0 and turn off the head unit 25) In the future, do not exceed the volume written in Step 12 [/QUOTE]
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