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<blockquote data-quote="bigbangtheory" data-source="post: 7286971" data-attributes="member: 563177">Man, what a cluster....I can see both sides of the story, so in the middle I guess. Kicker makes some good stuff IMO, just over priced, especially their amps, but they are nice. Subs are very hit and miss due to their pricing, but can be had cheap if you look around.A lot of people like the small guy and it is for good reason. Better CS, feel like you are part of the company more so and if you have a problem more than likely it will be taken care of. Had a situation that was taken care of twice with FI on a sub. Would have never had the same luck with Kicker and the big name brands....I had good luck with my Kickers and have heard a few Sundown setups that got nasty and sounded good. I still think a lot of it is in the install....Also I have seen a few guys meter high on some old school Orion amps that were stamped low wattage, but were beasts and put up insane numbers....I know not the same as what Bassmechanic said, but just sayin&#039;.....also saw a dood put up 150 plus on old AC190 meter on two 10&#039;s off 600rms....claimed it was all in his box, which was a crazy t-line horn box. It was nutz!Interesting read, lol!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bigbangtheory, post: 7286971, member: 563177"] Man, what a cluster.... I can see both sides of the story, so in the middle I guess. Kicker makes some good stuff IMO, just over priced, especially their amps, but they are nice. Subs are very hit and miss due to their pricing, but can be had cheap if you look around. A lot of people like the small guy and it is for good reason. Better CS, feel like you are part of the company more so and if you have a problem more than likely it will be taken care of. Had a situation that was taken care of twice with FI on a sub. Would have never had the same luck with Kicker and the big name brands.... I had good luck with my Kickers and have heard a few Sundown setups that got nasty and sounded good. I still think a lot of it is in the install.... Also I have seen a few guys meter high on some old school Orion amps that were stamped low wattage, but were beasts and put up insane numbers....I know not the same as what Bassmechanic said, but just sayin'.....also saw a dood put up 150 plus on old AC190 meter on two 10's off 600rms....claimed it was all in his box, which was a crazy t-line horn box. It was nutz! Interesting read, lol! [/QUOTE]

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