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<blockquote data-quote="BASSMEKANIK89" data-source="post: 7284750" data-attributes="member: 631754"><p>Ok I know I said I would not post anymore in this section, but here goes.&nbsp; I posted that I think the better choice for a customer would be a 12w6 instead of a 12w7 for SPL purpose.&nbsp; That staement was made not based on specs(which the W7 is better on paper), but based on the price vs output only.&nbsp; I can sell a guy 4 12w6 and get more output instead of selling him 2 12w7 woofers.&nbsp; It just wouldn&#039;t make sense to sell them the W7 unless that is what they had to have.&nbsp; The 148db was in a 2004 celica gt that the woofer and port were loaded off the hatch and it was metered on our shop Audio Control, which at the time was spot on with my buddies termlab.&nbsp; The box was a one note wonder tuned to the vehicle that was great for the meter and the woofer lasted about 3 months at a time.&nbsp; I upgraded him for free into a 12w3 to make it more reliable and as mentioned in that box it is not as loud.&nbsp; This was a couple of years ago and im sure the newer mic would not be as nice, but it proves that you can make anything loud if you try really really hard and use some common sense.&nbsp; I sold Kicker for YEARS and I don&#039;t use it anymore, because for the money I feel JL is a better all around sub.&nbsp; The Kickers can play louder depending on the setup(large ported enclosure), but for most small sealed applications I prefer the JL.&nbsp; &nbsp; I have had a couple of interesting responses to my post on here and If that is what you really feel, thats cool.&nbsp; I have been M.E.C.P. certified Advanced/First Class since 1997, I work in the industry and its not just a job its a career.&nbsp; I attend every training that I can get my foot in the door for and my customers love my work.&nbsp; With that being said I think that as passionate as some of you guys are about Sundown I will try and get one of them to test and this topic should be closed as it has gotton way off topic from the original question.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="BASSMEKANIK89, post: 7284750, member: 631754"] Ok I know I said I would not post anymore in this section, but here goes. I posted that I think the better choice for a customer would be a 12w6 instead of a 12w7 for SPL purpose. That staement was made not based on specs(which the W7 is better on paper), but based on the price vs output only. I can sell a guy 4 12w6 and get more output instead of selling him 2 12w7 woofers. It just wouldn't make sense to sell them the W7 unless that is what they had to have. The 148db was in a 2004 celica gt that the woofer and port were loaded off the hatch and it was metered on our shop Audio Control, which at the time was spot on with my buddies termlab. The box was a one note wonder tuned to the vehicle that was great for the meter and the woofer lasted about 3 months at a time. I upgraded him for free into a 12w3 to make it more reliable and as mentioned in that box it is not as loud. This was a couple of years ago and im sure the newer mic would not be as nice, but it proves that you can make anything loud if you try really really hard and use some common sense. I sold Kicker for YEARS and I don't use it anymore, because for the money I feel JL is a better all around sub. The Kickers can play louder depending on the setup(large ported enclosure), but for most small sealed applications I prefer the JL. I have had a couple of interesting responses to my post on here and If that is what you really feel, thats cool. I have been M.E.C.P. certified Advanced/First Class since 1997, I work in the industry and its not just a job its a career. I attend every training that I can get my foot in the door for and my customers love my work. With that being said I think that as passionate as some of you guys are about Sundown I will try and get one of them to test and this topic should be closed as it has gotton way off topic from the original question. [/QUOTE]

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