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<blockquote data-quote="hispls" data-source="post: 8361572" data-attributes="member: 614752">Testing has shown that layers or turns have less to do with performance real-world than simply how much volume of coil is in the gap.&nbsp; In other words, assuming the physical dimensions of the coil are the same, whether it&#039;s 8 layers of very thin wire or 4 layers of thicker stuff seems to make little difference (except possibly some higher inductance on the one with more turns)&nbsp; Of course at some point going too thin on the coil makes trouble at the coil leads which are generally the weak link thermally anyway and thinner wire there will smoke quicker.If OP wants to throw a bunch of power at a sub for the sake of bragging how much power he&#039;s throwing at a sub, the industry does a lot to cater to that.&nbsp; There&#039;s plenty of subs that claim 5-6KW of power handling.&nbsp; For the most part it&#039;s all the same Chinese parts so pick a brand name that strikes your fancy and have fun.FYI I sold my last 5 small gap sigs this winter.&nbsp; I do have a neo 12 I&#039;d sell for a good price but only for cash.And yes, for the most part, by the time you build a woofer that can mechanically handle 5KW you&#039;re way outside the boundaries of SQ by any standard definition.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hispls, post: 8361572, member: 614752"] Testing has shown that layers or turns have less to do with performance real-world than simply how much volume of coil is in the gap. In other words, assuming the physical dimensions of the coil are the same, whether it's 8 layers of very thin wire or 4 layers of thicker stuff seems to make little difference (except possibly some higher inductance on the one with more turns) Of course at some point going too thin on the coil makes trouble at the coil leads which are generally the weak link thermally anyway and thinner wire there will smoke quicker. If OP wants to throw a bunch of power at a sub for the sake of bragging how much power he's throwing at a sub, the industry does a lot to cater to that. There's plenty of subs that claim 5-6KW of power handling. For the most part it's all the same Chinese parts so pick a brand name that strikes your fancy and have fun. FYI I sold my last 5 small gap sigs this winter. I do have a neo 12 I'd sell for a good price but only for cash. And yes, for the most part, by the time you build a woofer that can mechanically handle 5KW you're way outside the boundaries of SQ by any standard definition. [/QUOTE]

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