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<blockquote data-quote="The_Quiet_One" data-source="post: 8548287" data-attributes="member: 614562">It&#039;s not basically the same; it is a Sundown sub at heart. It&#039;s not uncommon for larger companies to do designs or building for smaller companies. ie Fi does SSA subs and IA does Soundrive.I have a Sundown branded version of the CAB Ultra (CAB Ultras are still using sundown buildhouses as far as I know). It edged out a v2 SA by a bit in my application. I haven&#039;t had a chance to compare with the v3. As far as why Jacob sold the design. You can try and ask him. Maybe he didn&#039;t really feel the need to make a whole other line that really didn&#039;t fit in his product lineup? Especially considering he never finalized an Ultra design for any other size, which would take some substantial R&amp;amp;D. Why not sell a design you have no use for, but is a solid performer?If you&#039;re in the market for 12&quot;s and putting 800-1k to each I personally think Ultras are one of the go to subs atm in that power range. I know some people would even suggest throwing 1.5k on them, but that leaves too much room for user error. (I threw ~1.5k on mine briefly, T2500-BDCP at 4 ohms and it seemed to handle it ok. Output was just too much for my taste)Really I would imagine there won&#039;t be much differences between the the ultra and v3. It&#039;ll come down to whichever one works with your airspace and tuning abit better. Both are solid performers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The_Quiet_One, post: 8548287, member: 614562"] It's not basically the same; it is a Sundown sub at heart. It's not uncommon for larger companies to do designs or building for smaller companies. ie Fi does SSA subs and IA does Soundrive. I have a Sundown branded version of the CAB Ultra (CAB Ultras are still using sundown buildhouses as far as I know). It edged out a v2 SA by a bit in my application. I haven't had a chance to compare with the v3. As far as why Jacob sold the design. You can try and ask him. Maybe he didn't really feel the need to make a whole other line that really didn't fit in his product lineup? Especially considering he never finalized an Ultra design for any other size, which would take some substantial R&D. Why not sell a design you have no use for, but is a solid performer? If you're in the market for 12"s and putting 800-1k to each I personally think Ultras are one of the go to subs atm in that power range. I know some people would even suggest throwing 1.5k on them, but that leaves too much room for user error. (I threw ~1.5k on mine briefly, T2500-BDCP at 4 ohms and it seemed to handle it ok. Output was just too much for my taste) Really I would imagine there won't be much differences between the the ultra and v3. It'll come down to whichever one works with your airspace and tuning a bit better. Both are solid performers. [/QUOTE]

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