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<blockquote data-quote="T3mpest" data-source="post: 8157376" data-attributes="member: 560148">Run test tones and figure out where your missing bass at.&nbsp; Upping tuning or shrinking the box won&#039;t do too much if it&#039;s above 60hz or so.&nbsp; Below that you can somewhat augment the bass, but really your just shifting a fairly large peak one way or another, it won&#039;t ever sound &quot;right&quot;.&nbsp; From some tests I&#039;ve seen, the GCONS may not do too much better, I know when Data-bass tested the Xcons, they were a typical boomer CA sub, 35-50hz with authority and not much else.&nbsp; Even with the supposed shorting rings inductance was ridiculous and effected the woofer alot.&nbsp; Check it out if your curious <a href="http://www.data-bass.com" target="_blank">Data-Bass</a>.&nbsp; Anyways, any chance you can fit a 15?&nbsp; If so I do have a used sub that will do what you want and then some.If you need 12&#039;s look at the JBL GTi series, you can usually find them used for&nbsp; a STEAL as they are slept on by alot of car audio guys.&nbsp; They will get up to 80hz no problem and are still plently loud for daily lows.&nbsp; AA&#039;s subs have shorting rings too and those are definetly designed for beatin on, so a Chaos or Havok might be a good choice.&nbsp; Those&nbsp; I haven&#039;t heard, but I&#039;ve seen plenty of reviews say they do just fine up high, well in fact.&nbsp; SA12&#039;s I do believe will do better than the SKARS will, how much better, IDK.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="T3mpest, post: 8157376, member: 560148"] Run test tones and figure out where your missing bass at. Upping tuning or shrinking the box won't do too much if it's above 60hz or so. Below that you can somewhat augment the bass, but really your just shifting a fairly large peak one way or another, it won't ever sound "right". From some tests I've seen, the GCONS may not do too much better, I know when Data-bass tested the Xcons, they were a typical boomer CA sub, 35-50hz with authority and not much else. Even with the supposed shorting rings inductance was ridiculous and effected the woofer alot. Check it out if your curious [URL="http://www.data-bass.com"]Data-Bass[/URL]. Anyways, any chance you can fit a 15? If so I do have a used sub that will do what you want and then some. If you need 12's look at the JBL GTi series, you can usually find them used for a STEAL as they are slept on by alot of car audio guys. They will get up to 80hz no problem and are still plently loud for daily lows. AA's subs have shorting rings too and those are definetly designed for beatin on, so a Chaos or Havok might be a good choice. Those I haven't heard, but I've seen plenty of reviews say they do just fine up high, well in fact. SA12's I do believe will do better than the SKARS will, how much better, IDK. [/QUOTE]

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