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[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

I chose the example I did because it is a classic SCHOLARLY example of biblical contradiction due to the different books being written by different people at different times. Because I don't waste time memorizing scripture i copy and pasted the specific chapters and lines from a quick google search. It happened to be an example i remembered from a course i took years ago at Indiana University.
I dont claim to be any expert in theology (i don't think you have to be one to discuss it), but if you actual received education on the subject and were never confronted with biblical contradictions then your education was probably much more of a christian self appeasing one rather than a critical scholarly one (which wouldn't be surprising depending on the christian university you attended).

Apparently you didnt learn much about being a good christian there either, or you wouldn't be resorting so much to name calling and personal attacks.

The Trial of Jesus: An Account

no where on this thread have i said i am some godly christian person. I believe in god but im not one to go to church every sunday and you are right. many different people contributed to the bible and between different people having different views, different styles of writing, interpretation of those writings to put them into the NIV versions we have today, different time periods, yes there are things that dont match up completely and understandably so.. and ya your right religion and theology is not my major but being at a christian university i was required to take a certain amound of religion related classes. on a side note i think its a joke all of these history channels trying to disprove whats in the bible. there are too many things today imo that prove it rather than disprove it. obviously alot of the stuff in the bibles far fetched when you really sit back and really put thought into it. but try to think of something about the creation of the earth that is not far fetched. you really think that all of the forms of matter we have today were created from random types of space gas forming these things. I mean just to think of the relative distance fromt he earth to the sun and the rotation and the fact that if anything is off just a tick i mean a fraction we would burn up or be frozen. hard to believe there is not some unwordly power keeping things in their place.. not to mention the fact that there are sea shells on every land surface covering the entire earth. how did that happen? earth covered in water perhaps? coincidence? long babble but i just got goin

 

[retrojordans 10+ year member]

You can either be an atheist or another religion.... what's your point again?

You can be a Deist like the founding fathers of the United States, and believe in aliens just like they did. They were smart, they knew religion was the obsession of the ignorant, and caused nothing but wars and bloodshed because only the ancient equivalent of white trash hillbillies were stupid enough to buy into it, the reason religions have so many followers is because up until about 50 years ago the average education level of the vast majority of Earth's population was the modern day 5th grade education, they will believe anything!!! ROFL

Maybe because 300 years ago people didn't have a clue what a germ was, a cell, no clue what blood was, oh but let's base our existence on some hooplah idiots made up a few THOUSAND years ago ROFL.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

I dont really consider myself an overly religious or spiritual person. I considered myself atheist for years, then it was agnostic. Now I just accept the fact that no matter what you can never scientifically prove 100% that there is or isnt a god. I don't denounce others if they say they're christian, sometimes I even envy them, because in my head no matter what I can never get the doubt that god is real out of my head. My view is live and let live, people need to come to understandings of what they believe on their own and no amount of preaching on either side will change anyones real opinion. I may die one day, but I love the "stardust" view of buddhism, as in we live in a closed recycled world. In 1000 years the matter that I'm made of will be in all kinds of life.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

You can be a Deist like the founding fathers of the United States, and believe in aliens just like they did. They were smart, they knew religion was the obsession of the ignorant, and caused nothing but wars and bloodshed because only the ancient equivalent of white trash hillbillies were stupid enough to buy into it, the reason religions have so many followers is because up until about 50 years ago the average education level of the vast majority of Earth's population was the modern day 5th grade education, they will believe anything!!! ROFL
Maybe because 300 years ago people didn't have a clue what a germ was, a cell, no clue what blood was, oh but let's base our existence on some hooplah idiots made up a few THOUSAND years ago ROFL.

Education level and IQ are completely different though. Reasoning skills can be improved with education but you need a core to work with. Einstein believed in God and he was pretty **** smart. Plenty of "smart" people believe in God.

The founding fathers did not think "Religion was bad". They thought "Organized Religion" was bad. A big difference.

In 300 years the knowledge we have now will look as bad or worse than what we knew 300 years ago. You can never know what truely is going on, because face it the universe itself is too big and too intricate for the brain the size of a cantelope to understand.

 

[retrojordans 10+ year member]

Human beings are some of the most ignorant monkey's to ever walk this planet, and our kind will soon eliminate itself. To think humans, the tiniest little specs of **** on the universal plane would ever, ever be enlightened on what is going on in the universe is preposterous. Our life spans are the universe's equivalent of a billionth of a billionth of a millisecond, to think we would have any clue as to what's going on, in the spectrum we inhabit is insane.

No human has any right to assume any of us know anything whatsoever, a human being can guarantee one thing, we will never know anything. As for whatever ancient crackhead made up religion, he probably saw a UFO, **** his pants, and started rambling on about gods and whatever other 3rd grade special ed garbage he had in his infection, and drug ridden brain. Equally ignorant morons gathered around him and started spreading the word, and praising him as the mesiah! Such geniuses. Hmmf.

 

[retrojordans 10+ year member]

Education level and IQ are completely different though. Reasoning skills can be improved with education but you need a core to work with. Einstein believed in God and he was pretty **** smart. Plenty of "smart" people believe in God.
The founding fathers did not think "Religion was bad". They thought "Organized Religion" was bad. A big difference.

In 300 years the knowledge we have now will look as bad or worse than what we knew 300 years ago. You can never know what truely is going on, because face it the universe itself is too big and too intricate for the brain the size of a cantelope to understand.

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[Wingman0121 10+ year member]

I lost faith in religion when Scientology is considered an official religion with tax exempt.

I don't remember the Bible explaining where Native Americans come from, or Mayans or Chinese people. Adam and Eve is supposed to be white so I guess something went wrong with the forbidden fruit.

The Bible forgot to tell the Jews about German Nazis.

**** Westboro Baptist Church, they should all be drowned.

I don't believe in that 72 virgins crap. I'm happy with just one or two.

I don't think wearing a Buddha necklace will bring me luck.

I do believe in being a nice person and treat others with respect as long as that person treats me well.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

I lost faith in religion when Scientology is considered an official religion with tax exempt.

I don't remember the Bible explaining where Native Americans come from, or Mayans or Chinese people. Adam and Eve is supposed to be white so I guess something went wrong with the forbidden fruit.

The Bible forgot to tell the Jews about German Nazis.

**** Westboro Baptist Church, they should all be drowned.

I don't believe in that 72 virgins crap. I'm happy with just one or two.

I don't think wearing a Buddha necklace will bring me luck.

I do believe in being a nice person and treat others with respect as long as that person treats me well.

Ya I'm a big believer in karma, not in the "magical bad luck" sense but in the sense where you screw people over or treat people like douches your asking for a ton of drama. Treat others right and you'll be treated right, humans however will often jump at the chance to **** on someones plate though.