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Message: <blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 2884487" data-attributes="member: 549629">Bend to my will? Are you joking? How many times in this thread have I said I 1) like alot of rap, 2) listen to alot of rap, and 3) believe there is *some* good sounding, well recorded and balanced 'rap' music out there... yet you want to portray me as trying to somehow force you to see things my way. So far as Im concerned, Ive conceded alot of points to you, yet you maintain a brick wall attitude, base if off your opinion of rap music, and then paint me in a light that looks like Im being stubborn and bullyish. Whatever.I'll ask you again:Can you honestly say you could see a professional tuner using [generic] rap to fine tune a SQ car before an event? Not some obscure rapper with a song that really doesn't fit the genre (heavy bass), your average every day rap song. If not, I dont see why we are having this debate.Your reply is someting to the effect of you aren't talking about setting up your SQ car with rap music... this is a car audio forum and this debate (on the car audio forum) is about "SQ" and rap music. On a car audio board, in a thread debating the SQ qualities of the rap music genre, I think its very fair to ask why a person who argues the SQ benefits of rap wouldn't also use rap to fine tune his SQ setup before a big event. Why wouldn't you? Maybe because that would admit you realize this debate is bigger than your opinion that *some* rap sounds *pretty good*. This debate has not been centered on Decado's opinion of what sounds *good*... its been centered around how rap fits, or does not fit, into the realm of 'SQ' in car (or I suppose home) audio.Rap music leans towards heavy bass output. No denying that, stop trying with your obscure rappers. You ask who cares if its artifically made bass? I care. How is anyone suppose to know what that bass is suppose to sound like? Someone beating a bass drum is a 100% different situation. The sound is predictable and recognizable. And, it has complexity, starting off with the initial tap noise as the stick impacts the drum, then moving on to the resonance from the drum itself (including decay). Now, that is complexity in a bass note, with cues to hang from when tweaking your subbass. Where are any of these cues in a bass note that is merely someone hitting a key on a syntesizer which correspondingly emits a flat, generally monotone subbass note? Rap fans hear a bass line which changes pitch a few times and all the sudden they think they have complex and intricate bass. Im underwhelmed.Yes, Im well aware you will ignore all that and move back to the arguement that you aren't discussing setting up a SQ system with rap, merely debating that rap can sound good. Dude, I'll give you that... that your opinion that rap *can* sound good is justifiable. Congrats. But the rest of us were discussing how rap characterisitcs do or do not fit into the 'SQ' realm in audio reproduction.I said you are circling the wagons because its obvious you are falling back on an arguement you can simply boil down to 'personal opinion'. Trying to take the discussion from actual debate about acoustical cues, advanatges, disadvantages, difference between it and other genres (real, tangible ideas) and degrade it into opinions about what everyone 'likes' more or thinks sounds 'good'. That is circling the wagons.Buffalohed, thanks for the nice words.Cheers guys.</blockquote>

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