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<blockquote data-quote="DanWiggins" data-source="post: 513752" data-attributes="member: 544847">I&#039;ve seen this many times, but I finally have to respond...Adire Audio &quot;pioneered&quot; the preorder for audio equipment back in 1998 with the Shiva.&nbsp; We&#039;ve done a dozen of them since then.&nbsp; And there&#039;s only be one that actually didn&#039;t hit the original ship date, for Tumults, when we had demand around 10X what was expected.Preorders aren&#039;t any different than regular orders, at least from a manufacturing/production standpoint.&nbsp; You line up what you want to have built/buy, get things organized, figure out when it will happen, then go.&nbsp; If you have a supplier that can&#039;t regularly meet your production needs, or constantly misses ship dates, either you drop that supplier, or you learn to live with it and take your lumps.But being a preorder doesn&#039;t mean things will miss...&nbsp; It means you help finance the first run of drivers, and we&#039;ll give you a discount.&nbsp; Nothing more, nothing less.&nbsp; Same as standard production runs...Now, if a company starts a preorder before they&#039;ve done the homework to finalize what&#039;s getting built, who&#039;s making what, and general lead times, then IMHO they are selling something that doesn&#039;t even exist.&nbsp; You hope you get what you preordered, because it&#039;s still not even designed.&nbsp; How many want to buy a 2007 Honda Cavat?&nbsp; No, you don&#039;t know what it will look like, perform like, etc. you just have to pay your money down now and hope it&#039;s what you want...Dan WigginsAdire Audio</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DanWiggins, post: 513752, member: 544847"] I've seen this many times, but I finally have to respond... Adire Audio "pioneered" the preorder for audio equipment back in 1998 with the Shiva. We've done a dozen of them since then. And there's only be one that actually didn't hit the original ship date, for Tumults, when we had demand around 10X what was expected. Preorders aren't any different than regular orders, at least from a manufacturing/production standpoint. You line up what you want to have built/buy, get things organized, figure out when it will happen, then go. If you have a supplier that can't regularly meet your production needs, or constantly misses ship dates, either you drop that supplier, or you learn to live with it and take your lumps. But being a preorder doesn't mean things will miss... It means you help finance the first run of drivers, and we'll give you a discount. Nothing more, nothing less. Same as standard production runs... Now, if a company starts a preorder before they've done the homework to finalize what's getting built, who's making what, and general lead times, then IMHO they are selling something that doesn't even exist. You hope you get what you preordered, because it's still not even designed. How many want to buy a 2007 Honda Cavat? No, you don't know what it will look like, perform like, etc. you just have to pay your money down now and hope it's what you want... Dan Wiggins Adire Audio [/QUOTE]

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