So, all of my AIM convo's are logged... and Showrides IM'd me...

The guys at low HZ are scumbags...

I am looking into a MAG 12 and audio junkies offered me a new one for 375 shipped. Can you beat his price? LEt me know. Thanks.
Well tell me a little about yourself, and I will see what I can do.

Do you attend lots of SPL comps? Go to lots of car shows? What do you drive?

Give me so info about what you can do in terms of showing off the mags, and I may be able to put something together for you.

Ben
Ben,

My name is Dominik Im 21 years old and I drive a 93 Infiniti J30. I have been in car audio for the last 3-4 years. I have never been to a dB drag, but I really want to get into it next season. I think the Mag is a perfect driver for that. I visit alot of the online forums and post alot about new subwoofers and toys, of course giving some small reviews on what I liked and didnt like.

I defenitely like to switch out drivers ofter, but if I find one I like then I will keep it for a long time. I really fell in love with the old first generation Magnum I had and I wanna give this one a shot.

I was just going to write a big review for a regular stock RE SX 12 vs a 12 SX hybrid. If you can make this happen I could include the MAG and possibly an Fi Q if I get my hands on one. Let me know, thanks for your time.

Dom
Thanks for that info. If you could just show me proof that you were offered a SI mag 12 for $375, I could work something out and even lower that price for you

I just can't give anyone a great deal though who says they were offered one for $375 shipped. People would just come to me all the time saying, I can get one for $350, can you match it?

So just show me an email or something then I will throw an even nicer price your way.

Ben
Hey Ben, here is the email I got from Nick Lemons:

From: "nick"

To: "'dominik rogacewicz'"

Subject: RE: SI Mag D2

Dominik,

The pre-order has been over for quite some time now. The Direct

Price on a 12" unit shipped within the continental U.S. is $350 shipped.

Older soft-parts are no longer available. The build of the

older drivers was simply not up to par with what we are currently

building and we refuse to go back to those soft parts. Re-cone kits for

the new drivers, however, will drop right in place for the older units.

The dust-cap, however, will have to be re-used as the claw basket does

not allow enough clearance for the new dust caps.

----------------

Nick Lemons

Stereo Integrity"

If you can match his 350 dollar price, then I will gladly give you the business. Let me know. Thanks

Dom
Nick said the preorder price of $350 is over now. Which means that you can't get them for $350 anymore.

Then he was saying that because of the new soft parts, the prices have gone up since then.

Also, I thought you said Audio Junkies quotes you $375 for a 12? I am good friends with Lukas, and he said that he said he would offer $375, because that is what SI quoted you months ago. Is that how it all went down?

Also, if you can get one from Nick at that price, I would go for it. But I don't think he will be willing to sell that low.

Ben
Ok I think you got a little confused by the email.

The preorder price for the MAG 12 was actually 300 shipped. Here ya go:

"Dominik,

Ordering is only available through money order, cashiers check, or Paypal

payment. Paypal is the only way we accept CC payments due to previous problems

with CC companies.

Pre-order pricing was $300 shipped for a 12.

I don't doubt how the older Magnum is holding up / performing. They were/are

very good woofers, but the new Mag's are just that much better. And yes, the

older Magnum's used a slightly modded TC9 motor with a 3" core and a 2.2"

winding height built by TC Sounds (of course).

Nick "

He quoted me the direct price, which is 350 shipped. I dont see why you say he wont go that low. He stated it himself.

The other part about the soft parts, was me inquiring whether or not SI has any recone kits for the old claw Magnum, its has nothing to do with the pricing.

AudioJunkies did quote me 375 tho. But then I found the email I got from Nick Lemons.

Just be real with me, I know how this business works. I know that you are still making money off the 350 shipped price tag. I honesltly dont see how this has to get so confusing. I told you about myself, and how I could show off the magnum. I gave you the quotes I got from Nick Lemons for factory direct price. If you want to sell me a Mag 12 for 350 shipped, then fine. If not thats fine too. Just dont BS me. Thanks for your time.

Dom
So audiojunkies quoted you $375 before they even knew you talked to Nick?

I am just trying to figure out exactly how it went down.

For $375 I would make a little off of the deal. But if we did $350, then after shipping to you, plus insuring it, it would not be worth it at all.

A lot of people think I get the mags for like $100 each or some crazy price like that, but honestly it will cost me a good amount over $300 to get it to your door.

But I do need to know if audiojunkies quoted you $375 for the mag 12, before they even knew you talked to Nick.

Thanks for spending the time wriitng, and I will talk with Nick and see how cheap I can get you a mag, to see if he will make an exception is dealer pricing this time around.

Ben
Ben,

I know you do not get the mags for 100 dollars, don't take me for an idiot, but I do know that you dont get them for 350 shipped either. That way you wouldnt make any money, and I'm not trying to stop you from making money either. This is the retail business after all.

So please just give me a price you are comfortable with and that is profitable for you and we can go from there.

Shipping from GA to me is less that 20 dollars for a 50 lbs package(I know the mag is not that heavy) Hopefully that can help you come up with a fair price for both of us. Thanks for your time.

Dom
I can do $375 shipped.

Shipping would be from KY, and using UPS ground and fully insuring it, I am sure it will cost more then $20.

Let me know how that sounds.

Ben
I thought you said you could get it from Nick for like $350?
If that is true, why are you asking me for it? It would be a much better idea to get it from him

Nick gave me a call today, and said that I WAS NOT allowed to sell a mag 12 for under $450 shipped to anybody. He said this was true for all dealers, and that any dealer who did that would be dropped.

So just go with him, because honestly, the risk is WAY to high for me to consider it, especially how he is really cracking down on this now.

Sorry I can't help you out, but I have rules to follow,

Ben
Ben,

If you sold it to me for any price we negotiated I would have kept the price to myself.

But thats cool man. I actually called SI the other day and he reffered you. He said they ended the direct sales a while ago.

Thanks for your time and sorry if I incovinienced you.

Dom
If you want to work something out. I will do $400 plus actual shipping.

And that is between us.

Ben
That was my dealing with him and trying to buy a MAG. I think that low hz should be dropped as an SI dealer.

 
Did you vote?
No I didn't.

I'll reiterate ~ I do not care one way or the other and since you did not include this as a 3rd option to the poll I chose not to participate.

I stand to gain or lose absolutely nothing by either their presence or their absence.

It makes no difference to me.

But I've wondered for a great long while now why it is okay for this member or that member to do most anything they please regardless of whether or not it is in full compliance with the TOS.

But let someone ruffle the wrong person's feathers and inevitably here comes the quoting of the rules to make sure everyone knows specifically which bit was violated!

The double standard is old, it's tiresome, and it's complete BS.

I am well aware, however, (before anyone else sees fit to point it out to me) that I stand quite alone in my viewpoint on this and I'm more than content with that.

 
No I didn't.I'll reiterate ~ I do not care one way or the other and since you did not include this as a 3rd option to the poll I chose not to participate.

I stand to gain or lose absolutely nothing by either their presence or their absence.

It makes no difference to me.

But I've wondered for a great long while now why it is okay for this member or that member to do most anything they please regardless of whether or not it is in full compliance with the TOS.

But let someone ruffle the wrong person's feathers and inevitably here comes the quoting of the rules to make sure everyone knows specifically which bit was violated!

The double standard is old, it's tiresome, and it's complete BS.

I am well aware, however, (before anyone else sees fit to point it out to me) that I stand quite alone in my viewpoint on this and I'm more than content with that.

You'll probably get banned for saying that, but before you do, make sure to cast your vote. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
I like how REAL DBDrag competitors have nothing better than to talk about you and how much you ****.
Sounds like a bunch of winners all around.
Yes, I follow Scott around at ALL shows.

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You'll probably get banned for saying that, but before you do, make sure to cast your vote. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif
If I do then that's fine.

I have no outstanding deals I need to tend to - the two things that I was paid for this morning have already been shipped out (for those of you watching this thread who either have scammed others or might in the future this is how to properly go about selling things. You get paid? Ship out the gear!) and I have other things besides CA.com to occupy my free time. I'll serve my "time" and be back when it's over.

No he sure won't...
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Well, that's nice to know! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

 
He tried pushing a pair of Mag15's on me, at his cost... If I gave them a great review.
Not knowing that I had known Nick since near the beginning of SI... and that I didn't need to be bribed to give a great review. I had already demo'd the 12 free of charge and loved it.

I can find that logged convo too, if need be...

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Why would someone need to bribe to get a good review on Mags? Even in the 12" showdown a while back, they owned in SQ. I have never heard any owner complain about mags and they have been getting pretty loud for some people as well. I think the product has spoken for itself to be completely honest. It is a true SQL woofer. I love my 12". The only complaint I have now is that the new mags coming out soon have woven tinsel leads //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif You are to blame for that complaint, since you made me realize how bad of a design wovens can be.

 
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