This is all my dad will pay for he will not pay monthly for satellite theres a guy in our town that does w/e to the cards/boxes and we just buy them we had dish and switched to direct tv while they are working on the new cards and we should be goin back to dish soon. I know every once in a while say once a year your card or box will get zapped and you will have to buy a new one i think we pay 100 for a box and like 25 for a card. better than a monthly bill