Jelly I love the avatar, dannng. What size boxes does SE's require? I think that should be a large factor in what you should choose your sub on, if you have the room L7s can be made to sound pretty good, while keeping high SPL. I havent heard a SE before, but with the amount of people who love them on all the forums they have to be a great sub. Then again kickers have been around, MANY people have heard them and choose to buy them, where as many people havent heard SE's and just buy them from other peoples opinions on them. I bought my eD 15a awhile ago, just because the hype online, it sounded good, but didnt get loud enough even with 1500 watts, so I was alittle dissapointed. My friends L7 ate it up in SPL, so I bought another. now I win. :boobies: