Ron Paul 2008

End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
It is fundamentally unfair to give benefits to anyone who has not paid into the system. The Social Security for Americans Only Act (H.R. 190) ends the drain on Social Security caused by illegal aliens seeking the fruits of your labor.
^^ Those two should be laws already.

We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.

I like him. But he doesn't talk about what he's gonna do. Just the stuff that other people have messed up on. I still like Obama. He's just a pimp.

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how is Giuliani a leader?
not trying to start an arguement....just curious
Cleaned up NYC from a crime infested dump to one of the safest cities to live,got NY out of debt,was the key supervisor and leader clean up man whatever you wanna call it to the single largest attac on US soil......many more reasons- I think since I am from NYC I am biased ....

I don't wanna debate it here.......Whats RonPaul ever done? Not much

Looks like the US idiots just might vote in Hillary anyways.......

all the candidates have skeletons in their closets and Hillary's

closet is loaded with really bad shit,her past is evil,I mean she has done some

real ileagal shady stuff...

RonPaul has some really delusional ideas,I think he reads too many George Orwell books - He is a mediocra speaker and shows me very little leadership

persona...He is a puppet saying what he thinks people wanna hear....

 
I too think Ron Paul is teh shit.... however I won't be voting for him as he is crazy!!! Most of his main ideas he's running on I agree with:

No Policing of the world

Focus on home first before abroad

smaller Federal Gov't more power to states

somebody who actually tries to follow the constitution not re-write it

but he does want to kill the fed and department of education which is way to radical for me. He's got a bunch of crazy ideas if you read the forums and the other thread here.

 
This guy has 2 main things going against him. He's from Texas and he's a Republican. Republicans have proven that all they can do is run our country into the ground where it is right now.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

-that is all

 
Cleaned up NYC from a crime infested dump to one of the safest cities to live,got NY out of debt,was the key supervisor and leader clean up man whatever you wanna call it to the single largest attac on US soil......many more reasons- I think since I am from NYC I am biased ....I don't wanna debate it here.......Whats RonPaul ever done? Not much
Crime was on the decline in NYC before and after Giuliani was the mayor...or do you believe that arresting squeegeemen is a good approach to deterring crime? Then he forced his commissioner out because his commissioner is getting too much credit.....sounds like a great guy.

And his handling of 9/11 has some major holes in it as well.

But I agree that Ron Paul talks a lot about making wide sweeping revolutionary changes that he probably won't be able to enforce.

 
At least Ron Paul is getting people interested, thinking, and discussing important American issues.

I think he addresses issues the other candidates are not. And IMO, those issues are more important. While I don't agree with the feasbility of many of his plans, I do appreciate his enthusiasm for offering a different choice.

 
Not supporting Giuliani?
Hes a drag queen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I am.........Rudy is a leader
Ron Paul is not a leader,he is hype and internet frenzy:rolleyes:
Rudy was a GREAT lawyer, and he did help clean up a lot of BS in NY. However, when he got into politics, he officially turned into a POS and seems like hes nothing more then a slightly more intelligent Bush clone (same ideals)...and hes a drag queen.

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I too think Ron Paul is teh shit.... however I won't be voting for him as he is crazy!!! Most of his main ideas he's running on I agree with:
No Policing of the world

Focus on home first before abroad

smaller Federal Gov't more power to states

somebody who actually tries to follow the constitution not re-write it

but he does want to kill the fed and department of education which is way to radical for me. He's got a bunch of crazy ideas if you read the forums and the other thread here.
I wont argue that, he does have some ideas that are...questionable. Some things like killing the fed (which probably wont happen..ever) are odd, but at the very least things need to be changed. Dept of education, well I dont really see it as killing off education, but moving everything to a state level. Kind of like how each state has a dept of insurance.

Our school systems are garbage atm so a change wouldnt be bad. What are we ranked? like 26th in the world now?

He comes across as too much of a whiner and not a do'er.
Problem is there are A LOT of issues in our country that no one is paying attention to. Just because he points them out when others arnt, isnt making him a whiner. I can certainly understand why you'd see it that way though.

At least Ron Paul is getting people interested, thinking, and discussing important American issues.
I think he addresses issues the other candidates are not. And IMO, those issues are more important. While I don't agree with the feasbility of many of his plans, I do appreciate his enthusiasm for offering a different choice.
At the very least, he is accomplishing that much. On a different note, looks like his campaign just broke another record. $6 million in a day. If anything it seems like hes gaining more and more momentum. Not that the straw poles mean anything, but hes killing it at a majority of them, despite whats reported on the media. Which is the opinion of 800-900ish people IIRC.

 
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Im trading my vote in for an Ipod Shuffle

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