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<blockquote data-quote="Torgus" data-source="post: 5568349" data-attributes="member: 571636"><p>to bad you're wrong huh? let me explain(AGAIN) how every argument you just tried to make is wrong.</p><p></p><p>1) "solder makes a better connection blah blah" listen a properly crimped wire has as much contact area. either way the difference is 1-2% which is NOTHING. Solder can't withstand the stress vs a properly crimped connector. it's quicker, cheaper, easier, and more reliable then a soldered contact. and again 99% of the people on here can't solder, don't know which solder to use, and it's more time consuming and expensive.</p><p></p><p>2) set screws are VERY easy to make them stay in permanently...but why even bring them up? we're not talking about them. oh and it's called locktite and every person in the world has it in their garage/shop</p><p></p><p>3) "Also, any mechanical method is bound to fail." uhh no.</p><p></p><p>4) "Wasting money buying bigger wire vs. correctly using the correct wire is the dumbest thing I have ever heard." that make no sense just letting you know. What i think you are trying to get at is when i mentioned the 1-2% above. IF the 1-2% more contact area is honestly needed(which it isn't 99% of the time) you would go down the a lower gauge before trying to run a system with a tolerance margin of 2%. that's just ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>5) "Why would I use bigger wire just so I could be lazy and not solder the connection?" there is nothing lazy about using a crimper vs. soldering</p><p></p><p>LOOK, A properly crimped connection will NOT be flexible in the area of electrical contact. The wire within the crimp should form a "gas tight" seal between the strands and the connector. Solder will not flow into this area so it will not enhance the connection mechanically or electrically. Thus why i said 1-2% at most. The real problem with solder is that is will bond the wire strands outside the crimp and lead to premature mechanical failure unless it is supported. Capillary action will draw solder quite a distance up the stranding of the wire and turn it into solid wire, which is a no-no in any environment, especially a car. Yes you can "support" it, but what does that mean - the support would have to consist of something that would prevent the stranded part of the wire from flexing at the point where it becomes "solid" due to entrained solder. which means heavy rubber of some sort as heart shrink sure isn't a stress reliever.</p><p></p><p>Since it will not enhance the connection I see no reason to solder as it only can make the wire more prone to failure.</p><p></p><p>do you understand now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Torgus, post: 5568349, member: 571636"] to bad you're wrong huh? let me explain(AGAIN) how every argument you just tried to make is wrong. 1) "solder makes a better connection blah blah" listen a properly crimped wire has as much contact area. either way the difference is 1-2% which is NOTHING. Solder can't withstand the stress vs a properly crimped connector. it's quicker, cheaper, easier, and more reliable then a soldered contact. and again 99% of the people on here can't solder, don't know which solder to use, and it's more time consuming and expensive. 2) set screws are VERY easy to make them stay in permanently...but why even bring them up? we're not talking about them. oh and it's called locktite and every person in the world has it in their garage/shop 3) "Also, any mechanical method is bound to fail." uhh no. 4) "Wasting money buying bigger wire vs. correctly using the correct wire is the dumbest thing I have ever heard." that make no sense just letting you know. What i think you are trying to get at is when i mentioned the 1-2% above. IF the 1-2% more contact area is honestly needed(which it isn't 99% of the time) you would go down the a lower gauge before trying to run a system with a tolerance margin of 2%. that's just ridiculous. 5) "Why would I use bigger wire just so I could be lazy and not solder the connection?" there is nothing lazy about using a crimper vs. soldering LOOK, A properly crimped connection will NOT be flexible in the area of electrical contact. The wire within the crimp should form a "gas tight" seal between the strands and the connector. Solder will not flow into this area so it will not enhance the connection mechanically or electrically. Thus why i said 1-2% at most. The real problem with solder is that is will bond the wire strands outside the crimp and lead to premature mechanical failure unless it is supported. Capillary action will draw solder quite a distance up the stranding of the wire and turn it into solid wire, which is a no-no in any environment, especially a car. Yes you can "support" it, but what does that mean - the support would have to consist of something that would prevent the stranded part of the wire from flexing at the point where it becomes "solid" due to entrained solder. which means heavy rubber of some sort as heart shrink sure isn't a stress reliever. Since it will not enhance the connection I see no reason to solder as it only can make the wire more prone to failure. do you understand now? [/QUOTE]
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