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<blockquote data-quote="JLCivic" data-source="post: 997301" data-attributes="member: 547424">Well, if you had a problem with the 9815, it would make sense to just recommend the 9835(assuming you realized the problem had apparently been fixed with that model).IMO, Alpine stuff is not as good as it used to be.&nbsp; I do believe their name has carried them more in recent years.&nbsp; When people talk about the &quot;legendary&quot; alpine decks, you don&#039;t hear about 7863s/7894/9815/7995, etc.&nbsp; You hear about the 7909/7949/7969, and those haven&#039;t been made in years.&nbsp; Of course they have the F1 Status, but for $2k-$3k, it better **** well sound incredible.&nbsp; Most brands are going that way, unfortunately....tons of features for the lowest price...that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean &quot;sounds better.&quot;As for why alpine seems to be used where you live, there are many reasons why people use a specific brand(availability, price, sponsorship, etc).&nbsp; I bet some Pioneer P9 combo users would love to take a crack at some of those alpine users.&nbsp; That is supposed to be an excellent combo(I have not heard one).If you believe Alpine spends 90% on quality components, and Pioneer spends 50%, I wonder where you would put Eclipse(do you have access to eclipse decks?).&nbsp; If not then that is a shame. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gifEverybody has brand preferences.&nbsp; I have run into one guy who INSISTED that RF had the absolute best decks, and I thought he was on drugs.&nbsp; He heard my car, and bought an Eclipse(I ran Eclipse for 10 years), and he hasn&#039;t looked back.&nbsp; Some people prefer the sound of Pioneer while others prefer the sound of Eclipse, Alpine, etc.&nbsp; To my ears, from top to bottom, Eclipse makes the best sounding decks.&nbsp; When I see somebody say they think clarion does, I think they are insane, but I don&#039;t know what THEIR ears are telling them.&nbsp; IMO, Alpines tend to be a little &quot;brighter&quot; while Eclipse seems to have a smoother sound to my ears.&nbsp; I prefer the smoother sound.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JLCivic, post: 997301, member: 547424"] Well, if you had a problem with the 9815, it would make sense to just recommend the 9835(assuming you realized the problem had apparently been fixed with that model). IMO, Alpine stuff is not as good as it used to be. I do believe their name has carried them more in recent years. When people talk about the "legendary" alpine decks, you don't hear about 7863s/7894/9815/7995, etc. You hear about the 7909/7949/7969, and those haven't been made in years. Of course they have the F1 Status, but for $2k-$3k, it better **** well sound incredible. Most brands are going that way, unfortunately....tons of features for the lowest price...that doesn't necessarily mean "sounds better." As for why alpine seems to be used where you live, there are many reasons why people use a specific brand(availability, price, sponsorship, etc). I bet some Pioneer P9 combo users would love to take a crack at some of those alpine users. That is supposed to be an excellent combo(I have not heard one). If you believe Alpine spends 90% on quality components, and Pioneer spends 50%, I wonder where you would put Eclipse(do you have access to eclipse decks?). If not then that is a shame. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] Everybody has brand preferences. I have run into one guy who INSISTED that RF had the absolute best decks, and I thought he was on drugs. He heard my car, and bought an Eclipse(I ran Eclipse for 10 years), and he hasn't looked back. Some people prefer the sound of Pioneer while others prefer the sound of Eclipse, Alpine, etc. To my ears, from top to bottom, Eclipse makes the best sounding decks. When I see somebody say they think clarion does, I think they are insane, but I don't know what THEIR ears are telling them. IMO, Alpines tend to be a little "brighter" while Eclipse seems to have a smoother sound to my ears. I prefer the smoother sound. [/QUOTE]

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