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<blockquote data-quote="squeak9798" data-source="post: 4643468" data-attributes="member: 555320">I guess I don&#039;t understand the question.How is &quot;hoarding everything right now&quot; related to there is no afterlife?There are socially and morally objectable reasons to doing &quot;sheisty things&quot;.Yes.They are likely a combination of both evolution and societal values.&nbsp; Many animals display acts of altruism, generally with no expectation of reciprocation.&nbsp; And there have been studies conducted to show that essentially all humans, even remote primitive communities, share the same basic moral/ethical values.&nbsp; Both of these indicate it&#039;s ingrained into humans on a deeper biological level, pointing towards it being a product of the evolutionary process.&nbsp; And then there is the study of memes and the like which also help explain them on a social basis.See above.&nbsp; Social and ethical objections.&nbsp; I don&#039;t need god to feel compassion for another living thing, or to not act in a manor that I would not want myself to be treated in.&nbsp; And of course, social deterrents such as jail, etc.Socially and morally acceptable versions of &quot;good&quot;.Atheism is merely a lack of belief in a supernatural god.&nbsp; It&#039;s not a belief in any particular area.I could see how an atheist may find the activities calming and relaxing.&nbsp; It may also allow a time where someone would allow themselves to get lost in thought.&nbsp; I know that as an atheist I spend a considerable amount of time contemplating god (et al) and various other interesting concepts.I wouldn&#039;t take it into the truly &quot;spiritual&quot; realm, however.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="squeak9798, post: 4643468, member: 555320"] I guess I don't understand the question. How is "hoarding everything right now" related to there is no afterlife? There are socially and morally objectable reasons to doing "sheisty things". Yes. They are likely a combination of both evolution and societal values. Many animals display acts of altruism, generally with no expectation of reciprocation. And there have been studies conducted to show that essentially all humans, even remote primitive communities, share the same basic moral/ethical values. Both of these indicate it's ingrained into humans on a deeper biological level, pointing towards it being a product of the evolutionary process. And then there is the study of memes and the like which also help explain them on a social basis. See above. Social and ethical objections. I don't need god to feel compassion for another living thing, or to not act in a manor that I would not want myself to be treated in. And of course, social deterrents such as jail, etc. Socially and morally acceptable versions of "good". Atheism is merely a [I]lack of[/I] belief in a supernatural god. It's not a [I]belief[/I] in any particular area. I could see how an atheist may find the activities calming and relaxing. It may also allow a time where someone would allow themselves to get lost in thought. I know that as an atheist I spend a considerable amount of time contemplating god (et al) and various other interesting concepts. I wouldn't take it into the truly "spiritual" realm, however. [/QUOTE]

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