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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smokeoff" data-source="post: 389813" data-attributes="member: 542553">from what i have heard i would take th sonys over the z's.  Could have been the choice in music and the install, who knows.  If your budget is locked at 100 i would still look at the pioneers.  However if your willing to drop $75 bucks a sub Circuit(sp?) city has the infinity reference on sale. IMHO a much much better sub.  These were all in different boxes with diff. HU and diff. amps so i can't say wich sub is really better.  I was also very happy with my polk GNX 12s on sale for 2 for 140 when I got them.  If possible listen to all of the subs in a box similar to what you will get.  I you have not got a box yet please don't make my mistake and get suckered into a prefab Bandpass(loud but sounds like a--s--s)How much room you giving them, how much power, what kind of music.</blockquote>

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