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<blockquote data-quote="Motorhead87" data-source="post: 8704552" data-attributes="member: 678909"><p>For those that care I thought I would give you a little update on how things have turned out. I went to one of 2 local authorized dealers for AF to listen to their speakers in person before I settled on going with that speaker. The dealer I went to I really liked so I thought what the heck I'll have him give me a full quote to purchase all equipment through him and do the install just to see how it compared with my costs. My equipment costs on Crutchfield were $1700 without any wiring included. He came back and said he could source all my equipment I wanted and do the install for $1625 which included all wiring so I jumped on that.</p><p></p><p>The install went pretty smoothly and I checked out their wiring and cables they used and was happy with the quality. They put distribution blocks in the trunk for the power and ground wires like I requested as well. They finished up just after closing time so I made my way to a parking lot across the street to check it all out before I went back home. I know for many of you SPL guys this system wouldn't turn a head but for me this single 12 bumps. I made my own ported box per the AF specs which they used for me. I was also incredibly impressed with the output from these speakers. I can blast any type of music louder than I ever have before with incredible clarity and distortion free sound. I also did the big 3 upgrade myself that weekend.</p><p></p><p>Once I was halfway home I started noticing the word "pair" flashing in my info display of my car where it shows your real-time MPG, etc. I wasn't happy with that and did some research to find out that I should have unpaired my phone from the factory stereo before I removed it. That never crossed my mind to even do. I also noticed that when I would turn the sound all the way down you could hear white noise still coming from the speakers. Kind of like a record player before or after a song plays where its blank space. Also when you would completely turn the HU off you would get a buzzing come through the speakers. I texted my install guy and gave him a list of the issues I was having. He told me to bring it back next time I was available which I did and he addressed all issues. They turned down my gains on the Sony amp going to the speakers to get rid of the white noise and buzzing. They also fixed the pairing issue.</p><p></p><p>So I was pretty thrilled with the overall results for about 2 weeks and then I noticed my front driver speaker was fading in and out and when it would play it sounded like crap and had a lot of static in the sound. I had never blown a speaker before so I thought this might have been what happened. I looked up how to tell if a speaker has been blown and tested it using a 9V battery and it doesn't appear to be the case. So I texted my install guy again and told him about the issue. I took the car in again and they said the RCAs on my old Sony amp were going out. They recommended I replace the amp. I don't know how to test that but when I got home I would wiggle the RCAs and noticed it would make the speaker cut in and out. So I figured I got my moneys worth out of that amp and bought a Skar SK-M4004D 4x100w amp for the speakers. I installed that myself and was pretty pissed to hear that after that, the driver speaker is still having the same issue. It was totally not playing at first while I sat in the car listening to music. Then I noticed after a few minutes it was at least fading in/out again. Then it started playing consistently for a good 10-15 min. I did notice that when I opened the door fully it would cut back out. If I closed it just a few inches it would play again. So I think maybe the speaker wire connection is loose or the wire jacket is cut somewhere and possibly shorting out sometime? I dont know what else it could be. Any suggestions on things to look for?</p><p></p><p>So long story short I have an appointment Monday to bring it back to him to consider replacing the speaker and full run of wiring to that door and hopefully fix the problem once and for all. When everything was playing correctly it sounded amazing but its been a frustrating couple of weeks of not having everything working correctly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Motorhead87, post: 8704552, member: 678909"] For those that care I thought I would give you a little update on how things have turned out. I went to one of 2 local authorized dealers for AF to listen to their speakers in person before I settled on going with that speaker. The dealer I went to I really liked so I thought what the heck I'll have him give me a full quote to purchase all equipment through him and do the install just to see how it compared with my costs. My equipment costs on Crutchfield were $1700 without any wiring included. He came back and said he could source all my equipment I wanted and do the install for $1625 which included all wiring so I jumped on that. The install went pretty smoothly and I checked out their wiring and cables they used and was happy with the quality. They put distribution blocks in the trunk for the power and ground wires like I requested as well. They finished up just after closing time so I made my way to a parking lot across the street to check it all out before I went back home. I know for many of you SPL guys this system wouldn't turn a head but for me this single 12 bumps. I made my own ported box per the AF specs which they used for me. I was also incredibly impressed with the output from these speakers. I can blast any type of music louder than I ever have before with incredible clarity and distortion free sound. I also did the big 3 upgrade myself that weekend. Once I was halfway home I started noticing the word "pair" flashing in my info display of my car where it shows your real-time MPG, etc. I wasn't happy with that and did some research to find out that I should have unpaired my phone from the factory stereo before I removed it. That never crossed my mind to even do. I also noticed that when I would turn the sound all the way down you could hear white noise still coming from the speakers. Kind of like a record player before or after a song plays where its blank space. Also when you would completely turn the HU off you would get a buzzing come through the speakers. I texted my install guy and gave him a list of the issues I was having. He told me to bring it back next time I was available which I did and he addressed all issues. They turned down my gains on the Sony amp going to the speakers to get rid of the white noise and buzzing. They also fixed the pairing issue. So I was pretty thrilled with the overall results for about 2 weeks and then I noticed my front driver speaker was fading in and out and when it would play it sounded like crap and had a lot of static in the sound. I had never blown a speaker before so I thought this might have been what happened. I looked up how to tell if a speaker has been blown and tested it using a 9V battery and it doesn't appear to be the case. So I texted my install guy again and told him about the issue. I took the car in again and they said the RCAs on my old Sony amp were going out. They recommended I replace the amp. I don't know how to test that but when I got home I would wiggle the RCAs and noticed it would make the speaker cut in and out. So I figured I got my moneys worth out of that amp and bought a Skar SK-M4004D 4x100w amp for the speakers. I installed that myself and was pretty pissed to hear that after that, the driver speaker is still having the same issue. It was totally not playing at first while I sat in the car listening to music. Then I noticed after a few minutes it was at least fading in/out again. Then it started playing consistently for a good 10-15 min. I did notice that when I opened the door fully it would cut back out. If I closed it just a few inches it would play again. So I think maybe the speaker wire connection is loose or the wire jacket is cut somewhere and possibly shorting out sometime? I dont know what else it could be. Any suggestions on things to look for? So long story short I have an appointment Monday to bring it back to him to consider replacing the speaker and full run of wiring to that door and hopefully fix the problem once and for all. When everything was playing correctly it sounded amazing but its been a frustrating couple of weeks of not having everything working correctly. [/QUOTE]
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