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<blockquote data-quote="Motorhead87" data-source="post: 8696264" data-attributes="member: 678909"><p>Again thank you all for the feedback. I know I am pretty vague for now but this is helping me a lot. Running the risk of buying 6 3/4" speakers for my TL front doors now and then buying a new vehicle later that cant use them is not a concern for me. Ill get all year to enjoy them over the crap I have now and if I can take them with me then great but if not at least ill have a years worth of experience with the brand and know if I want to stick with the same thing or move to something different. I have learned from past budget builds that the lower end Pioneer components were too flat for me, Infinity Reference components would be too shrill and high at higher volumes. I'm slowly weeding those out as I progress and hopefully will find the right setup for me to stick with.</p><p></p><p>I already expected to buy a LOC to install subs to a factory HU so that was already $150-ish right there. I wasn't sure if I really needed a DSP or not and was trying to learn more about that. If I can kill two birds with one stone with a double din that doesn't break the bank like a Kenwood Excelon DMX706S or the Pioneer that you recommended then I'm fine with that. I can decide to take that with me when I switch or leave it for the wife. She doesn't care either way so its just about what I want. I have no idea what vehicle I will buy next. Its going to depend on a lot of factors. It will either be a similar sized car or midsized SUV. </p><p></p><p>I have a long way to go learning how to build my own box before I feel that I want to attempt that. The part about tuning your box to a certain frequency doesn't make sense to me yet. So I want to limp by for now with this prefab one. I know I will be robbing my system and but anything is better than the crap speakers in this car and the stock sub that is non-existent which is in there now. Once I get the box design thing down I can make it myself. I also plan on doing all of the install myself. I'm very handy and can learn that after a couple of videos. </p><p></p><p>What I don't want to do is buy speakers and subs that I'll view as just "Meh" and end up not wanting to take any of it with me next time and wasting all of that money. I want quality stuff that will fit my music preference. If that means that in this vehicle its only capable of 80% of its potential but when I give it the attention it needs in the next vehicle its going to be at 100% then I am ok with that. I think I want to go with (2) 10's after all for the greater woofer surface area compared to (1) 12. How do you guys know when its time for the alternator and big 3 upgrade? Is it literally just when you hook up your system and experience dimming lights etc? I know you can get to a certain point where you might have a 5k system and its obvious but what about for someone like me who is going to be in the 1-1.5k range?</p><p></p><p>Talking speakers: What do you think about Audiofrog GS62's? They are 75w RMS @ 4 ohms so my Sony amp would fit well there at 80w x 2 @ 4 ohms. Would these give me good crisp vocals with great clarity and high volumes, acceptable mid range bass and not too harsh on the highs?</p><p></p><p>For Subs: Thinking SA-10's or SSA Demon 10's. I want tight bass that I can feel throughout the car. I don't know how to describe the bass I don't like other than subs that put off a noise similar to the port noise from an incorrectly sized port or a cheap sealed box. All that ends up doing is hurting my head and sounds loud just for the sake of being loud. I want it to sound well and pack a punch at the same time.</p><p></p><p>For Amps: I will look into the taramps brand but I notice a lot of threads on here talking about problems they are having with theirs. Are they mainstream enough and been around enough to where we are starting to see the limits of their longevity and problems that are shooting up everywhere?</p><p></p><p>I wont both sound deadening this car but will for sure do this in my next vehicle. I might just do some spot areas to stop the rattles that I will for sure have in places once this is up and running.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Motorhead87, post: 8696264, member: 678909"] Again thank you all for the feedback. I know I am pretty vague for now but this is helping me a lot. Running the risk of buying 6 3/4" speakers for my TL front doors now and then buying a new vehicle later that cant use them is not a concern for me. Ill get all year to enjoy them over the crap I have now and if I can take them with me then great but if not at least ill have a years worth of experience with the brand and know if I want to stick with the same thing or move to something different. I have learned from past budget builds that the lower end Pioneer components were too flat for me, Infinity Reference components would be too shrill and high at higher volumes. I'm slowly weeding those out as I progress and hopefully will find the right setup for me to stick with. I already expected to buy a LOC to install subs to a factory HU so that was already $150-ish right there. I wasn't sure if I really needed a DSP or not and was trying to learn more about that. If I can kill two birds with one stone with a double din that doesn't break the bank like a Kenwood Excelon DMX706S or the Pioneer that you recommended then I'm fine with that. I can decide to take that with me when I switch or leave it for the wife. She doesn't care either way so its just about what I want. I have no idea what vehicle I will buy next. Its going to depend on a lot of factors. It will either be a similar sized car or midsized SUV. I have a long way to go learning how to build my own box before I feel that I want to attempt that. The part about tuning your box to a certain frequency doesn't make sense to me yet. So I want to limp by for now with this prefab one. I know I will be robbing my system and but anything is better than the crap speakers in this car and the stock sub that is non-existent which is in there now. Once I get the box design thing down I can make it myself. I also plan on doing all of the install myself. I'm very handy and can learn that after a couple of videos. What I don't want to do is buy speakers and subs that I'll view as just "Meh" and end up not wanting to take any of it with me next time and wasting all of that money. I want quality stuff that will fit my music preference. If that means that in this vehicle its only capable of 80% of its potential but when I give it the attention it needs in the next vehicle its going to be at 100% then I am ok with that. I think I want to go with (2) 10's after all for the greater woofer surface area compared to (1) 12. How do you guys know when its time for the alternator and big 3 upgrade? Is it literally just when you hook up your system and experience dimming lights etc? I know you can get to a certain point where you might have a 5k system and its obvious but what about for someone like me who is going to be in the 1-1.5k range? Talking speakers: What do you think about Audiofrog GS62's? They are 75w RMS @ 4 ohms so my Sony amp would fit well there at 80w x 2 @ 4 ohms. Would these give me good crisp vocals with great clarity and high volumes, acceptable mid range bass and not too harsh on the highs? For Subs: Thinking SA-10's or SSA Demon 10's. I want tight bass that I can feel throughout the car. I don't know how to describe the bass I don't like other than subs that put off a noise similar to the port noise from an incorrectly sized port or a cheap sealed box. All that ends up doing is hurting my head and sounds loud just for the sake of being loud. I want it to sound well and pack a punch at the same time. For Amps: I will look into the taramps brand but I notice a lot of threads on here talking about problems they are having with theirs. Are they mainstream enough and been around enough to where we are starting to see the limits of their longevity and problems that are shooting up everywhere? I wont both sound deadening this car but will for sure do this in my next vehicle. I might just do some spot areas to stop the rattles that I will for sure have in places once this is up and running. [/QUOTE]
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