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[chris96camaro 10+ year member]

I would never appreciate something I dont agree with. Especially when it comes down to bush making decisions that dont help the country, but instead set us backward. He has a 30-some approval rating for a reason. Americans are finally finding some sense.

but the fact is that americans thought enough of him to make him president, again....so overhtrowing him, as you say, will do nothing but push the country back further, dont you agree?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

but the fact is that americans thought enough of him to make him president, again....so overhtrowing him, as you say, will do nothing but push the country back further, dont you agree?

Tyranny of the majority.

Some of the most heinous dictactors of the 20th century had the full backing of the people to get into power.

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

but the fact is that americans thought enough of him to make him president, again....so overhtrowing him, as you say, will do nothing but push the country back further, dont you agree?

Well this is just turning into a liberal/conservative debate, we both think our way is best, (history has shown my point of view to be best) and debating this is pointless. All I am saying is that it is not right to support or fake support a leader you dont agree with. Doing that is an awful lot like a dictatorship.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4628932.stm
i read all that, does anyone else think we shouldnt be there? sorry just thought id bring it up..... or do you guys think that by us leaving i will give them the time and security to develop a plan to attack us again?

I'm sorry but I have to ask this. When did Iraq ever attack us.??

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

he wouldnt have made these decisions if he didint think it was going to help, so maybe you should appreciate what he is trying to do, even if you dont agree wth it...

My my my, you have alot to learn my naieve young brother. That liar has NO intentions of helping this country. He wants to make as much money as he can while in office and thats about it. Don't believe the BS.

Oooooh I forgot one thing..........he's also going to do what he can to make his oil buddies rich too.

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

haha... no.
Some war mongering ulta conservatives might have, but the nation has now seen the truth behind the lies we were told and even without going into iraq, time would have shown that nation to not be a threat to us, only in the interests of personal shit bush likes to use in his policies.. SHould we leave now? hel no, we couldnt. This is one of the worst situations america has ever been put in, history books will show this regime to be the worst in our 200+ year history.

you = moron

Yeah, lied about what? Bush's interests in what? stop blabbering your lame conspiracies that you can't back up. The Bush administration F'ed up big time no doubt, but don't try to spin it like that. You have no proof of anything.

Do you not understand what fanatical islamics think? They think by killing us or anyone else not of their religion (which doesnt represent true islam) that they will be rewarded by allah.

Do you think those insurgents are just blowing themselves up because they are frustrated with the US soldiers policies? Its because they have fanatical beliefs, and by dealing with them there, and using Iraq as a focal point, we are killing them off. This war was a big mistake, but lots of good will come out of it in 20 years.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

you = moron
Yeah, lied about what? Bush's interests in what? stop blabbering your lame conspiracies that you can't back up. The Bush administration F'ed up big time no doubt, but don't try to spin it like that. You have no proof of anything.

Do you not understand what fanatical islamics think? They think by killing us or anyone else not of their religion (which doesnt represent true islam) that they will be rewarded by allah.

Do you think those insurgents are just blowing themselves up because they are frustrated with the US soldiers policies? Its because they have fanatical beliefs, and by dealing with them there, and using Iraq as a focal point, we are killing them off. This war was a big mistake, but lots of good will come out of it in 20 years.

WOW........................just...............wow. Thats all I have since there is no reasoning with a neo con such as this.

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

WOW........................just...............wow. Thats all I have since there is no reasoning with a neo con such as this.

HAHAHA, okay then, nice argument. btw, when did I say I was a neo con? Just becuase Im not a raving idiot like you doesnt make me a "neo con".

Its obvious that you cant respond becuase you have absolutely no idea what your talking about.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

HAHAHA, okay then, nice argument. btw, when did I say I was a neo con? Just becuase Im not a raving idiot like you doesnt make me a "neo con". Its obvious that you cant respond becuase you have absolutely no idea what your talking about.

Excuse me?? You're the one raving in this thread and the other one. You're obviously a neo-con since you love Bush so much. And you're also the one coming to his rescue every time someone speaks the truth about him. Don't hate me because you idolize a liar.

BTW. The game is over man. Everyone with half a brain knows he has lied on many occasions. Especially about WMDs that do NOT exist even though he emphatically claimed there were.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Here is something else for you.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0606-05.htm

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Here's a quote from that news link.

A Desperate Search For WMDs Has So Far Yielded Little, If Any, Fruit

Even before formally declaring war against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, the President had dispatched American military special forces into Iraq to search for weapons of mass destruction, which he knew would provide the primary justification for Operation Freedom. None were found.

Throughout Operation Freedom's penetration of Iraq and drive toward Baghdad, the search for WMDs continued. None were found.

As the coalition forces gained control of Iraqi cities and countryside, special search teams were dispatched to look for WMDs. None were found.

During the past two and a half months, according to reliable news reports, military patrols have visited over 300 suspected WMD sites throughout Iraq. None of the prohibited weapons were found there.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

you = moron
Yeah, lied about what?

I believe your question has been answered.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif.................moron

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

Dude, your source is from a proggresive online commentary, if thats the best you have, go punch yourself in the dick.

If he were going to lie about the WMD's, wouldnt he have at least planted them?

Don't try to argue against that, you'll only ended making more of an *** of yourself.

In case you forgot, in order to lie about the WMD's it would take the ENTIRE intelligence community to hoax up some plan for what? 2000 soldiers dead? The oil that we aren't even drilling for?

Do you think just because we didn't find them, that he/everyone in the government lied about it? thats what I see by the fact you kept posting that there weren't any found, do you think I dont know that? No shit sherlock, thats old news, no wmd's, great, its called an intelligence mistake.

The director of the CIA and his head officials were all fired because of this intelligence error.

And stop calling me a neo-con, you sound like a raving hippie dyke. In case you couldnt read I said that the bush administration has made mistakes, and they have done a general shitty job at everything, I would defend anyone against an idiot like you.

I would vote for a democrat over bush in a heart beat If there was one that wasn't such a ***** that tries to appeal to all voters. Im pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, anti-war, I think we should rid of out aggresive foreign policy, but only when the time is right.

BTW in case you forgot about the little incident with saddam a few years ago:

"From March 29, 1987 until April 23, 1989, Iraqi army under the command of Ali Hassan al-Majid carried out a genocidal campaign against Kurds, characterized by the following human rights violations: the widespread use of chemical weapons, the wholesale destruction of some 2,000 villages, and slaughter of around 50,000 rural Kurds, by the most conservative estimates. The large Kurdish town of Qala Dizeh (population 70,000) was completely destroyed by the Iraqi army. The campaign also included Arabization of Kirkuk, a program to drive Kurds out of the oil-rich city and replace them with Arab settlers from central and southern Iraq. Kurdish sources report the number of dead to be greater than 182,000 "

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

anyone who believes the president is doing what is in the best interest of the country needs to learn many things. I would start with the current president, his father, Dick Cheney, and their involement in oil and the military spending. do some research on Halliburton to learn some cool stuff. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Josh #44 10+ year member]

I'm going to have to back Bush on this one. I know that he may not ALWAYS do the right thing, and that hes made mistakes in the past but who hasnt? I think hes doing his best and I dont think hes just trying to make his "oil buddys" rich. The fact is that even if you dont agree with everything he says or does, you shouldnt go talking shit about him to everyone, all of that is exactly what is making our country fall apart right now. If he didnt wanna help this country, then he wouldnt have ran for pres. And if we werent over there in Iraq, then our *** would be gettin bombed right now and y'all would be *****in cuz we werent over there fighting for our country. He cant please everyone....