I only heard their self-titled record, and it was seriously one of the worst, uninspired, pretentious piece of shit CD's I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot of shitty music. Power chord progression jacked from Nirvana, terrible songwriting that attempts to cover serious topics yet manages to not say anything at all, a la Nickelback, drumming that rivals the White Stripes for suckiness, and of course the token, contrived "reflective and introspective" acoustic song that comes off as so forced I cant help but burst at the seams from laughter. What a fu*king joke, I feel bad for you simpletons that have come to believe that this is actually good music. Tsk tsk.