New Head Unit to Control iPod?

[lil azn 06 10+ year member]

Do know that you have to buy a seperate thing for the ipod control if you plan on buying a 9835 or 9855. It uses Ai.net to connect

 

[Apoc 10+ year member]

Yes, I know that but the new ones you don't have to buy a seperate cable?

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Why not just burn some good mp3 cds and to hell with that fucking ipod.?? J/K. On a serious note though, why deal with slow interfaces when a mp3 cd sounds better anyway.?? Or is SQ not a concern anyway.?? I realize if you're playing with mp3s then SQ isn't your top priority but why not have the best sounding mp3s you can have?

Oh well, its up to you........your money right. Sorry to threadjack.

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Why not just burn some good mp3 cds and to hell with that fucking ipod.?? J/K. On a serious note though, why deal with slow interfaces when a mp3 cd sounds better anyway.?? Or is SQ not a concern anyway.?? I realize if you're playing with mp3s then SQ isn't your top priority but why not have the best sounding mp3s you can have?
Oh well, its up to you........your money right. Sorry to threadjack.

Lets see..

#1. 60gb/700mb/cd = 61440/700=87.7 CD's of mp3's.

And #2, playlists

Any questions?

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[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Lets see..#1. 60gb/700mb/cd = 61440/700=87.7 CD's of mp3's.

And #2, playlists

Any questions?

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Nope, no questions. I knew what I was talking about. I was talking about mp3 cds being of higher quality sound.........NOT being of higher capacity.

You could always burn cds in the order you want for a playlist. I do it all the time. I also rip my cds in VBR ubernet standard so they sound really good compared to CBR files. Again I was only implying he could save all the hassle of interface problems and just get a good deck that plays mp3 cds.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Nope, no questions. I knew what I was talking about. I was talking about mp3 cds being of higher quality sound.........NOT being of higher capacity.
You could always burn cds in the order you want for a playlist. I do it all the time. I also rip my cds in VBR ubernet standard so they sound really good compared to CBR files. Again I was only implying he could save all the hassle of interface problems and just get a good deck that plays mp3 cds.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Right, but you asked why not just burn some cd's -- my reasons are 2 reasons why not to burn all the mp3's on an ipod to cd's instead of just using the ipod for what its designed for. You could burn cd's with groups of your mp3's that are usually played together in playlists, but What about having a playlist that crosses multiple cd's? Burn that track twice? What if a track is in 7 of my playlists? What if HALF of my tracks are in 7 playlists? That'd make my 80 odd cd's turn into 120. Not to mention any time i add an mp3 or change my playlist...guess what?! NEW CD's!

lol...

Re: VBR vs. CBR...VBR is nice but some players have issues playing them...a 320k CBR mp3 is of course going to sound as good or better than a VBR-anything file anyway, so i tend to rip to 320k and forget about it.

But as you mentioned...mp3 is mainly about convenience, not about quality.

 

[NYRngrs24 10+ year member]

the quality is the same, if you put a 256kb song on a mp3cd or ipod, it will sound the same, its the quality of the mp3, because its coming out of the ipod makes no difference, EXCEPT if you are not using the dock connector, if using the headphone output, than yes that affects audio quality.

 

[Apoc 10+ year member]

the quality is the same, if you put a 256kb song on a mp3cd or ipod, it will sound the same, its the quality of the mp3, because its coming out of the ipod makes no difference, EXCEPT if you are not using the dock connector, if using the headphone output, than yes that affects audio quality.

So you're saying its better to use the dock connector correct?

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

the quality is the same, if you put a 256kb song on a mp3cd or ipod, it will sound the same, its the quality of the mp3, because its coming out of the ipod makes no difference,

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I know I would trust the laser in my deck wayyy before I would trust an ipod to deliver the best sound mp3 is capable of. I guess what I'm saying is that an mp3 file played on a cd is kept digital all the way to the pre outs which will provide better sound.

This is all redundant anyway since CD audio OWNS mp3 anyway.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Apoc 10+ year member]

yeah well I know all of that is true, I am talking about on the ipod if its better to go with a dock connector or just RCA from the headphone jack. I am planning to go dock. And, I want to use my ipod because I can continously update my songs without more CDs and I can just put it on shuffle and pick a random song out of my 8,000 on it. But, I still burn MP3 cds once and a while too.

 

[headless 10+ year member]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I know I would trust the laser in my deck wayyy before I would trust an ipod to deliver the best sound mp3 is capable of. I guess what I'm saying is that an mp3 file played on a cd is kept digital all the way to the pre outs which will provide better sound.
This is all redundant anyway since CD audio OWNS mp3 anyway.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

The ipod dock connector is a digital method of sending the data out. Thus the ability to control the ipod through the connector. A laser reading an mp3 file from a CD isn't any better than a hardrive reading it. In fact, the hard-drive is going to be a whole lot more reliable than a laser (no scratches!). MP3 CD's are not better than MP3's stored on a hardrive. The only place you are going to really lose quality is in the output stage.

 

[headless 10+ year member]

yeah well I know all of that is true, I am talking about on the ipod if its better to go with a dock connector or just RCA from the headphone jack. I am planning to go dock. And, I want to use my ipod because I can continously update my songs without more CDs and I can just put it on shuffle and pick a random song out of my 8,000 on it. But, I still burn MP3 cds once and a while too.

Yep, the dock is the best method. Do it man!

 

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

I have heard negative things about the extra connectors. Some people say to just control the ipod through the deck, others say get the adapter.

 

[Apoc 10+ year member]

I got the alpine 9855 and I have to wait until tomorrow to get the ipod connector

 

[mikegett 10+ year member]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I know I would trust the laser in my deck wayyy before I would trust an ipod to deliver the best sound mp3 is capable of. I guess what I'm saying is that an mp3 file played on a cd is kept digital all the way to the pre outs which will provide better sound.
This is all redundant anyway since CD audio OWNS mp3 anyway.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

A cd is the most basic form of analog signal. Don't let yourself get hooked into the analog versus digital debate. In reality, there is no manor to get a fully digital signal without hitting a analog conversion somewhere. With that said, I do believe the ipod sounds suprisingly good for such a small player. But like your point, the HU's processor is far superior and will give a better reproduction. The thing we have to remember is that sound is subjective. what should sound better, may be concidered worse deepending upon the individual.