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<blockquote data-quote="Lasherž" data-source="post: 8710291" data-attributes="member: 679555">Yeah this new stuff is a whole other league compared to old stuff unfortunately. Now days getting a radio stolen with wire snips behind the harness is almost a death sentence for the prospects of ever using the audio system again short of an insane bill and/or lots of failed attempts. I looked at a new chevy impala last week that had the factory radio cut out of it and someone had bought a harness from a local junkyard and poorly crimped every wire back on. It probably took them the whole day to do it and yet when I was done doing the harness work on the radio it didn&#039;t work because one of their connections was bad. I&#039;ve got a lot of patience with radio harnesses outside of a car, but inside I just give up if it takes more than an hour with little progress.Luckily there&#039;s a few companies that make adapters and harnesses, but I think the biggest downside of those companies is that in order to be economical they have to have one-size-fit-all solutions that work with tons of cars and that naturally leads to cracks where the instructions may not be so good for one model or maybe &quot;this wire does nothing on 99.5% of car models of the last 20 years so we&#039;re going to require bodge work if they just happen to have that model.&quot; sort of stuff. I&#039;m glad they exist but it&#039;s never going to go back to being as simple as it used to be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lasherž, post: 8710291, member: 679555"] Yeah this new stuff is a whole other league compared to old stuff unfortunately. Now days getting a radio stolen with wire snips behind the harness is almost a death sentence for the prospects of ever using the audio system again short of an insane bill and/or lots of failed attempts. I looked at a new chevy impala last week that had the factory radio cut out of it and someone had bought a harness from a local junkyard and poorly crimped every wire back on. It probably took them the whole day to do it and yet when I was done doing the harness work on the radio it didn't work because one of their connections was bad. I've got a lot of patience with radio harnesses outside of a car, but inside I just give up if it takes more than an hour with little progress. Luckily there's a few companies that make adapters and harnesses, but I think the biggest downside of those companies is that in order to be economical they have to have one-size-fit-all solutions that work with tons of cars and that naturally leads to cracks where the instructions may not be so good for one model or maybe "this wire does nothing on 99.5% of car models of the last 20 years so we're going to require bodge work if they just happen to have that model." sort of stuff. I'm glad they exist but it's never going to go back to being as simple as it used to be. [/QUOTE]

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