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<blockquote data-quote="Notwerk" data-source="post: 2291517" data-attributes="member: 553427">If you were to go all one brand, Alpine is probably the way to go. But he shouldn&#039;t count on getting a sponsership.As for Eclipse, having owned their old ones, I don&#039;t find that there&#039;s much of an &quot;SQ&quot; difference and found it vastly inferior the Alpine I later replaced it with. In addition, most (I noticed they changed this on their lower models) don&#039;t have removable faceplates. They feature &quot;ESN&quot; security, which means that if it&#039;s stolen in the first year, Eclipse will replace the deck. After that, you&#039;re screwed. There is a keylocking/serial number system that&#039;s supposed to help you get the deck back, but there&#039;s a fat chance of that happening.I never understood that: Yes, the thief gets a useless deck, but you&#039;re still out a stereo. And its not like the thief is going to mail it back to you. He&#039;ll probably throw it in the trash. My brother&#039;s Eclipse was stolen. Still no sign of it 4 years later. ESN is pretty much the dumbest idea in car stereo.&nbsp; I&#039;d avoid Eclipse altogether.If you want to go the featureless, &quot;all-out SQ&quot; route, get a Denon or a Clarion 9 series and at least have something exclusive.Pioneer Premier might also be worth considering for a one-brand solution.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Notwerk, post: 2291517, member: 553427"] If you were to go all one brand, Alpine is probably the way to go. But he shouldn't count on getting a sponsership. As for Eclipse, having owned their old ones, I don't find that there's much of an "SQ" difference and found it vastly inferior the Alpine I later replaced it with. In addition, most (I noticed they changed this on their lower models) don't have removable faceplates. They feature "ESN" security, which means that if it's stolen in the first year, Eclipse will replace the deck. After that, you're screwed. There is a keylocking/serial number system that's supposed to help you get the deck back, but there's a fat chance of that happening. I never understood that: Yes, the thief gets a useless deck, but you're still out a stereo. And its not like the thief is going to mail it back to you. He'll probably throw it in the trash. My brother's Eclipse was stolen. Still no sign of it 4 years later. ESN is pretty much the dumbest idea in car stereo. I'd avoid Eclipse altogether. If you want to go the featureless, "all-out SQ" route, get a Denon or a Clarion 9 series and at least have something exclusive. Pioneer Premier might also be worth considering for a one-brand solution. [/QUOTE]

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