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<blockquote data-quote="xx24xx" data-source="post: 5906853" data-attributes="member: 609592">Truth be told it is very hard to audibly hear the difference between a decent amp and a high end model at moderate levels.&nbsp; When you start to use more power ... thats what makes all the difference and to some, it makes a world of difference.&nbsp; Robert Zeff designs and hand builds his SE line.&nbsp; Arc Audio is some of the finest quality in the world and one of a VERY small handful, still built in USA.Comparing Arc amps with China outsourced parts for argument is BS.&nbsp; Then saying it&#039;s a waste of money only makes you look like a complete ignorant idiot.&nbsp; 19 years of experience doesn&#039;t mean sh!at unless you learn something.&nbsp; Judging by your erroneous statements you have only gotten hard headed.&nbsp; For the record RF used to make some great amps, even built in US.&nbsp; They still do make great reliable amps but they are no where near Arc&#039;s level.&nbsp; Sundown and all these other popular brands are nice but compared to Arc&#039;s SE line ... small potatoes.&nbsp; The price reflects this.I really don&#039;t see how you can compare Sundown customer service to Arc if you have never owned them.&nbsp; Arc doesn&#039;t honor warranty from internet sales.&nbsp; They expect you to have money to buy the best.&nbsp; GO FIGURE!!!&nbsp; Authorized dealers deal directly with any problems.&nbsp; The amp doesn&#039;t justify how the music sounds.&nbsp; Your audio system is only as good as your weakest link.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="xx24xx, post: 5906853, member: 609592"] Truth be told it is very hard to audibly hear the difference between a decent amp and a high end model at moderate levels. When you start to use more power ... thats what makes all the difference and to some, it makes a world of difference. Robert Zeff designs and hand builds his SE line. Arc Audio is some of the finest quality in the world and one of a VERY small handful, still built in USA. Comparing Arc amps with China outsourced parts for argument is BS. Then saying it's a waste of money only makes you look like a complete ignorant idiot. 19 years of experience doesn't mean sh!at unless you learn something. Judging by your erroneous statements you have only gotten hard headed. For the record RF used to make some great amps, even built in US. They still do make great reliable amps but they are no where near Arc's level. Sundown and all these other popular brands are nice but compared to Arc's SE line ... small potatoes. The price reflects this. I really don't see how you can compare Sundown customer service to Arc if you have never owned them. Arc doesn't honor warranty from internet sales. They expect you to have money to buy the best. GO FIGURE!!! Authorized dealers deal directly with any problems. The amp doesn't justify how the music sounds. Your audio system is only as good as your weakest link. [/QUOTE]

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