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<blockquote data-quote="*Ace*" data-source="post: 8160644" data-attributes="member: 555445">Everything what? Are you talking about the grade of magnet they used, the type of steel they used, the gap width, no copper sleeve on the pole, the &quot;B&quot; value of the motor, cooling,etc. What specific item(s) in the motor make it a bad motor? And what do you mean by bad? What may be bad for a daily driver may not be mad for a one note SPL driver and vice versa. Or are you only unsatisfied with the coil they use and the motor itself is fine?All I&#039;m trying to say is that people make very general statements around here and some people that are newer to the car audio world may get the wrong impression if details aren&#039;t provided.Not to mention I like to learn everything I can when it comes to car audio so if you have some specific details on why it may not be suitable for most people, then please let us know why so that we understand why it may be bad instead of just knowing that it&#039;s bad if that makes any sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="*Ace*, post: 8160644, member: 555445"] Everything what? Are you talking about the grade of magnet they used, the type of steel they used, the gap width, no copper sleeve on the pole, the "B" value of the motor, cooling,etc. What specific item(s) in the motor make it a bad motor? And what do you mean by bad? What may be bad for a daily driver may not be mad for a one note SPL driver and vice versa. Or are you only unsatisfied with the coil they use and the motor itself is fine? All I'm trying to say is that people make very general statements around here and some people that are newer to the car audio world may get the wrong impression if details aren't provided. Not to mention I like to learn everything I can when it comes to car audio so if you have some specific details on why it may not be suitable for most people, then please let us know why so that we understand why it may be bad instead of just knowing that it's bad if that makes any sense. [/QUOTE]

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